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It does keep it fresh. Try it. OK Psych it's now. lol. I've enjoyed you...........and your stable mind...............a lot:) I would have loved to have had the chance to paddle with you along the marshes, mangroves or some wonderful Florida river chatting up a storm. Until we hit the shoals. Cat...............maybe our paths will intersect someday in the caribbean. I'll be the one sitting on the seat liner;)   Take care. Gone fishing. Gator

 

via con dios gator. come back to share the results of your great summer adventure.

 

Song of the Builders

mary oliver

On a summer morning

I sat down

on a hillside

to think about God -

a worthy pastime.

Near me, I saw

a single cricket;

it was moving the grains of the hillside

this way and that way.

How great was its energy,

how humble its effort.

Let us hope

it will always be like this,

each of us going on

in our inexplicable ways

building the universe.

from Why I Wake Early (2004)

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BUT, if you open the dishwasher at the rinse cycle and, toss in a cup of apple cider vinegar it will leave the flatware and, other sparkling and, fresh smelling. I also add it where the jet dry use to go and, after reading the chemicals in jet dry one, should consider doing the same:) Disregard if you have a water softening / filtration system and ta ta ta for you if you do. lol Gator

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hmm i think ill try this the next time i run the dishwasher. i try not to run it unless its full which is every other day or so and in the summer thats kind of blecky. i dont use jet dry, my dishwasher doesnt seem to need it. my old one did but this seems to leave the dishes clear but sitting around in between cycles does leave it smelling icky.

 

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I'd like to see this doc as well as read the book. In Florida cities will need to find another source of water within 10 years. So says the 5 water management districts. It is such a huge mistake to privatize water resources and, it looks like this movie hits most major points. Corruption being the biggest and, one we all witness with the economy today. Speculations on our food is another concern. I feel it is already well underway. Here we fought off several permits for corporations to bottle water / pump millions from our springs. A recent drought in Atlanta which can not accomidate all with water there cause restricted flow of those bodies of waters that end up in the Gulf. Just recently Gov. Crist made it so one sole person will decide on those private bottle water permits in the future as opposed to an advisory board / board decision. Florida has long been known to be water rich but, with the depletion of the Floridian & Biscayne Aquifers we face major challenges. Tampa Bay has a desalination plant & reservoir that resolves nothing yet cost millions that could have actually addressed the problem. It is past time we all conserve our water resources and, become aware of the decisions being made in our areas. I'm open if any one feels the privitization of our water resources is a good thing but, it would be a hard sell with me. It stinks to high heaven in my opinion. Gator.

this seemed to be a huge problem in the last couple of years with the drought in the southeast and the water war between georgia and florida. desalinization is scary, imagine what that does to life in the bay? did you catch the article the other day on sonar and the beaching of whales? everything we do has a consequence somewhere in the ecosystem.

 

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Well, we scored one on Georgia. Any new home built there should have a rain catch system and, to continue to sod all to heck there makes my rump sore. I missed the recent sonar kill article but, have read of it before and, it is sad. I guess there is never no hope / freedom for Tibet when all of Chinas water is polluted and, Tibet so pristine. Gator

ATLANTA -- Metro Atlanta and its 4 million residents have almost no rights to a massive federal reservoir and must stop taking water from it within three years unless Congress authorizes continued withdrawals, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The devastating ruling against Georgia says nearly all the state's withdrawals are illegal because the reservoir, Lake Lanier, wasn't built for water supply. U.S. District Court Judge Paul Magnuson acknowledged use of the lake can't stop immediately because it is metro Atlanta's main water supply but said the state needs permission from Congress.

I'd like to see this doc as well as read the book. In Florida cities will need to find another source of water within 10 years. So says the 5 water management districts. It is such a huge mistake to privatize water resources and, it looks like this movie hits most major points. Corruption being the biggest and, one we all witness with the economy today. Speculations on our food is another concern. I feel it is already well underway. Here we fought off several permits for corporations to bottle water / pump millions from our springs. A recent drought in Atlanta which can not accomidate all with water there cause restricted flow of those bodies of waters that end up in the Gulf. Just recently Gov. Crist made it so one sole person will decide on those private bottle water permits in the future as opposed to an advisory board / board decision. Florida has long been known to be water rich but, with the depletion of the Floridian & Biscayne Aquifers we face major challenges. Tampa Bay has a desalination plant & reservoir that resolves nothing yet cost millions that could have actually addressed the problem. It is past time we all conserve our water resources and, become aware of the decisions being made in our areas. I'm open if any one feels the privitization of our water resources is a good thing but, it would be a hard sell with me. It stinks to high heaven in my opinion. Gator.

Blue Gold: World Water Wars.
Sam Bozzo, Director. Purple Turtle
Films, Canada, 2008. 90 minutes.
DVD, $24.95, C$34.95. www.
bluegold-worldwaterwars.com.
Sam Bozzos award-winning
Blue Gold addresses an important
topic. Many in the developed
world (certainly in the
United States) take water for
granted in the same way that
they take the air they breathe
for granted. However, as the
film makes clear, water is increasingly
being treated as a commodity, like oil, and people are losing
the rights to it within their own countries and for their own land.
Bozzo begins by presenting basic facts and answering fundamental
questions such as why the water cycle we learned about in elementary
school isnt enough to keep our water supplies stable.
The film paints a grim picture of the politics surrounding
the exploitation of water resources.
From Grenoble to Atlanta, government representatives
have been accused of taking bribes to support
the privatization of water supplies. The World Bank
has made such privatization a condition for debt
relief. Violence has broken out, as in Cochabamba,
Bolivia, where even the rainwater was privatized.
The movie is not without flaws. It is fairly one-sided,
and, in covering a lot of ground, it makes some sweeping
generalizations. Nonetheless, it is packed with verifiable
stories and facts.
In a postscreening discussion, Bozzo explained that
he had originally planned a sequel to The Man Who Fell
to Earth (which is about an alien race trying to get
Earths water). For background, he read Maude Barlow
and Tony Clarkes Blue Gold: The Fight to Stop the
Corporate Theft of the Worlds Water. Horrified about
the lack of coverage of the situation, he gave up fiction
and turned to documentary. Barbara R. Jasny

hmmmm tech difficulties tonight! i hit quote but its only replying instead!

ive used icy hot before and a couple of generic similar things.  those dont often work for me. prolly because most of my occasional aches and pains have to do with inflammation more than muscle strain.  i eat a lot of pineapple to counter that but still have to pop the anti inflammatories. stressful lifestyle i guess. should spend more time in the yoga retreat down the road. lol

speaking of which did you go on your vacation? how was it?

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My dentist and, I recently had a go around about aleve. He wanted me to take one an hour before I came in. There are bleeding problems with it as with a lot of anti inflamation drugs and, with all the foods I eat that contain natural blood thinners he had a hard time convincing me. The "you won't be able to handle the pain without it" worked. In a pinch I will take a motrin but, rest, ice and, lineament usually does it. Linament works pretty good on joint pain from what I hear. Gator

 

what kind of limament do you use? what are the active ingrediants? and the inactive ones too! lol

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I usually do not get a surprise like this until the end of August when they come after the grapes. And, I wish I had not forgot to zoom. There were 5 total and they 2 babies were in the drive. One almost all white and, the other the usual spots. Hope this worked. Gator

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What a great picture!  How cool to see so many deer in your yard.  I get excited when I see the resident bunny outside.  :)

 

 

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Thanks Cat . My bunnies excite me too. It kind of makes a yard feel balanced huh? Gator

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In toxicology studies apap is commonly used to potentiate the effects of whatever compound is being studied. Since 1990's, when I got that clue, I found other ways to deal with aches and, pains and, headaches and, such. Which now is mostly ice and, then secondly linament. I think the decission to finally regulate Acetaminophen is a good thing since there are so many other drugs that contain it and, making the public aware of counter effects is poor. As with a lot of other drugs that Doctors are quick to put someone on. . If I was someone who has been taking it long term I certainly would want a liver study done. This Short list below is from the Tylenol web site. Don't rely on anyone other than yourself when it comes to what goes in your mouth. Read the product label and be informed. This is long time coming and, greed took so long. Gator

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i saw this the other day. i wonder if people will really change their habits in response to this research. awhile back i read online advice that people should pop a tylenol before they go out partying to head off the hangover.  i dont take tylenol much but i do take 1 extra strength aleve every 3 days for mild joint pain. i actually have a prescription for more powerful anti inflammatories but they come with some major cardiovascular warnings so i keep those for emergencies. even aleve has some cardio risk tho prolly not at the dosage i use them

 

 

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My dentist and, I recently had a go around about aleve. He wanted me to take one an hour before I came in. There are bleeding problems with it as with a lot of anti inflamation drugs and, with all the foods I eat that contain natural blood thinners he had a hard time convincing me. The "you won't be able to handle the pain without it" worked. In a pinch I will take a motrin but, rest, ice and, lineament usually does it. Linament works pretty good on joint pain from what I hear. Gator

 

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In toxicology studies apap is commonly used to potentiate the effects of whatever compound is being studied. Since 1990's, when I got that clue, I found other ways to deal with aches and, pains and, headaches and, such. Which now is mostly ice and, then secondly linament. I think the decission to finally regulate Acetaminophen is a good thing since there are so many other drugs that contain it and, making the public aware of counter effects is poor. As with a lot of other drugs that Doctors are quick to put someone on. . If I was someone who has been taking it long term I certainly would want a liver study done. This Short list below is from the Tylenol web site. Don't rely on anyone other than yourself when it comes to what goes in your mouth. Read the product label and be informed. This is long time coming and, greed took so long. Gator

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i saw this the other day. i wonder if people will really change their habits in response to this research. awhile back i read online advice that people should pop a tylenol before they go out partying to head off the hangover.  i dont take tylenol much but i do take 1 extra strength aleve every 3 days for mild joint pain. i actually have a prescription for more powerful anti inflammatories but they come with some major cardiovascular warnings so i keep those for emergencies. even aleve has some cardio risk tho prolly not at the dosage i use them

 

 

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I take Tylenol Extra Strength once or twice a month.  That's it for pills for me.  I just don't take them.  As for the hangover thing, I've heard that you should take it after drinking and before bed with 2 glasses of water.

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In toxicology studies apap is commonly used to potentiate the effects of whatever compound is being studied. Since 1990's, when I got that clue, I found other ways to deal with aches and, pains and, headaches and, such. Which now is mostly ice and, then secondly linament. I think the decission to finally regulate Acetaminophen is a good thing since there are so many other drugs that contain it and, making the public aware of counter effects is poor. As with a lot of other drugs that Doctors are quick to put someone on. . If I was someone who has been taking it long term I certainly would want a liver study done. This Short list below is from the Tylenol web site. Don't rely on anyone other than yourself when it comes to what goes in your mouth. Read the product label and be informed. This is long time coming and, greed took so long. Gator

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i saw this the other day. i wonder if people will really change their habits in response to this research. awhile back i read online advice that people should pop a tylenol before they go out partying to head off the hangover.  i dont take tylenol much but i do take 1 extra strength aleve every 3 days for mild joint pain. i actually have a prescription for more powerful anti inflammatories but they come with some major cardiovascular warnings so i keep those for emergencies. even aleve has some cardio risk tho prolly not at the dosage i use them

 

In toxicology studies apap is commonly used to potentiate the effects of whatever compound is being studied. Since 1990's, when I got that clue, I found other ways to deal with aches and, pains and, headaches and, such. Which now is mostly ice and, then secondly linament. I think the decission to finally regulate Acetaminophen is a good thing since there are so many other drugs that contain it and, making the public aware of counter effects is poor. As with a lot of other drugs that Doctors are quick to put someone on. . If I was someone who has been taking it long term I certainly would want a liver study done. This Short list below is from the Tylenol web site. Don't rely on anyone other than yourself when it comes to what goes in your mouth. Read the product label and be informed. This is long time coming and, greed took so long. Gator


Some Common Medications That Contain Acetaminophen*

Its important to be aware of the ingredients in all medications that you may be taking. Acetaminophen (APAP) is a common component of many different over-the-counter and prescription medications. You should not take two or more products that contain acetaminophen at the same time.

Taking more than the recommended dose (overdose) of acetaminophen may cause liver damage.

Some Common Prescription Drugs That Contain Acetaminophen*

• Darvocet®
• Endocet®
• Fioricet®
• Hycotab
• Hydrocet®
• Hydrocodone Bitartrate
• Lortab®
• Percocet®
• Phenaphen®
• Sedapap®
• Tapanol®
• Ultracet®
• Vicodin®
• Zydone®
  

Some Common Over-the-Counter Drugs That Contain Acetaminophen*

• Actifed®
• Anacin®
• Bayer® Select Aspirin-Free
• Benadryl®
• Cepacol®
• Contac®
• Coricindin®
• Dayquil®
• Dimetapp®
• Dristan®
• Elixir®
• Excedrin®
• Feverall®
• Formula 44®
• Goodys® Powders
• Liquiprin®
• Midol®
• Nyquil®
• Panadol®
• Robitussin®
• Saint Joseph® Aspirin-Free
• Singlet®
• Sinutab®
• Sudafed®
• Theraflu®
• Triaminic®
• TYLENOL® Brand Products
• Vanquish®
• Vicks®
• Zicam®

*This is NOT a complete list. There are many other nonprescription brands and prescription medications that use acetaminophen (APAP) as an active ingredient. Also, some brands listed above have products which do not contain acetaminophen.

Actifed®, Anacin®, Bayer® Select Aspirin-Free, Benadryl®, Cepacol®, Contac®, Coricindin®, Dimetapp®, Dristan®, Elixir®, Excedrin®, Feverall®, Formula 44®, Goodys® Powders, Liquiprin®, Midol®, Nyquil®/Dayquil®, Panadol®, Robitussin®, Saint Joseph® Aspirin-Free, Singlet®, Sinutab®, Sudafed®, Theraflu®, Triaminic®, Vanquish®, Vicks®, Zicam®, Darvocet®, Endocet®, Fioricet®, Hydrocet®, Hycotab, Hydrocodone Bitartrate, Lortab®, Percocet®, Phenaphen®, Sedapap®, Tapanol®, Ultracet®, Vicodin®, Zydone® are registered trademarks of their respective owners and not McNeil-PPC Inc.

How the Food Makers Captured Our Brains

As head of the Food and Drug Administration, Dr. David A. Kessler served two presidents and battled Congress and Big Tobacco. But the Harvard-educated pediatrician discovered he was helpless against the forces of a chocolate chip cookie.

In an experiment of one, Dr. Kessler tested his willpower by buying two gooey chocolate chip cookies that he didnt plan to eat. At home, he found himself staring at the cookies, and even distracted by memories of the chocolate chunks and doughy peaks as he left the room. He left the house, and the cookies remained uneaten. Feeling triumphant, he stopped for coffee, saw cookies on the counter and gobbled one down.

Why does that chocolate chip cookie have such power over me? Dr. Kessler asked in an interview. Is it the cookie, the representation of the cookie in my brain? I spent seven years trying to figure out the answer.

The result of Dr. Kesslers quest is a fascinating new book, The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite (Rodale).

During his time at the Food and Drug Administration, Dr. Kessler maintained a high profile, streamlining the agency, pushing for faster approval of drugs and overseeing the creation of the standardized nutrition label on food packaging. But Dr. Kessler is perhaps best known for his efforts to investigate and regulate the tobacco industry, and his accusation that cigarette makers intentionally manipulated nicotine content to make their products more addictive.

In The End of Overeating, Dr. Kessler finds some similarities in the food industry, which has combined and created foods in a way that taps into our brain circuitry and stimulates our desire for more.

When it comes to stimulating our brains, Dr. Kessler noted, individual ingredients arent particularly potent. But by combining fats, sugar and salt in innumerable ways, food makers have essentially tapped into the brains reward system, creating a feedback loop that stimulates our desire to eat and leaves us wanting more and more even when were full.

Dr. Kessler isnt convinced that food makers fully understand the neuroscience of the forces they have unleashed, but food companies certainly understand human behavior, taste preferences and desire. In fact, he offers descriptions of how restaurants and food makers manipulate ingredients to reach the aptly named bliss point. Foods that contain too little or too much sugar, fat or salt are either bland or overwhelming. But food scientists work hard to reach the precise point at which we derive the greatest pleasure from fat, sugar and salt.

The result is that chain restaurants like Chilis cook up hyper-palatable food that requires little chewing and goes down easily, he notes. And Dr. Kessler reports that the Snickers bar, for instance, is extraordinarily well engineered. As we chew it, the sugar dissolves, the fat melts and the caramel traps the peanuts so the entire combination of flavors is blissfully experienced in the mouth at the same time.

Foods rich in sugar and fat are relatively recent arrivals on the food landscape, Dr. Kessler noted. But today, foods are more than just a combination of ingredients. They are highly complex creations, loaded up with layer upon layer of stimulating tastes that result in a multisensory experience for the brain. Food companies design food for irresistibility, Dr. Kessler noted. Its been part of their business plans.

But this book is less an exposé about the food industry and more an exploration of us. My real goal is, How do you explain to people whats going on with them? Dr. Kessler said. Nobody has ever explained to people how their brains have been captured.

The book, a New York Times best seller, includes Dr. Kesslers own candid admission that he struggles with overeating.

I wouldnt have been as interested in the question of why we cant resist food if I didnt have it myself, he said. I gained and lost my body weight several times over. I have suits in every size.

This is not a diet book, but Dr. Kessler devotes a sizable section to food rehab, offering practical advice for using the science of overeating to our advantage, so that we begin to think differently about food and take back control of our eating habits.

One of his main messages is that overeating is not due to an absence of willpower, but a biological challenge made more difficult by the overstimulating food environment that surrounds us. Conditioned hypereating is a chronic problem that is made worse by dieting and needs to be managed rather than cured, he said. And while lapses are inevitable, Dr. Kessler outlines several strategies that address the behavioral, cognitive and nutritional factors that fuel overeating.

Planned and structured eating and understanding your personal food triggers are essential. In addition, educating yourself about food can help alter your perceptions about what types of food are desirable. Just as many of us now find cigarettes repulsive, Dr. Kessler argues that we can also undergo similar perceptual shifts about large portion sizes and processed foods. For instance, he notes that when people who once loved to eat steak become vegetarians, they typically begin to view animal protein as disgusting.

The advice is certainly not a quick fix or a guarantee, but Dr. Kessler said that educating himself in the course of writing the book had helped him gain control over his eating.

For the first time in my life, I can keep my weight relatively stable, he said. Now, if you stress me and fatigue me and put me in an airport and the plane is seven hours late Im still going to grab those chocolate-covered pretzels. The old circuitry will still show its head.

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The web site has petitions and advocacy for healthier child school lunches. I hope it comes to the theaters in my area so I can commune with those concerned. If not hopefully there will be a house showing at some point. I went to one for the documentary Gimmie Green which was done locally and made it to Sundance and, it was a very nice gathering. Gator

I hope they are able to increase awareness about school lunches. There has been some progress made, the soda pop and junk machines have been taken out of most middle and high schools but when I see the school menus printed in the paper im shocked at what the kids are fed things like bologna and cheese on white? or mac and cheese or 2 hot dogs and fries? add to that the fake taters, the pressed mystery meat served on special occasions like thanksgiving and its no wonder that diabetes is on the rise in the under 18 group. it would be great if parents sent their kids to school with some sort of brown bag nutritious lunch but chances are its more of the same processed meat and cheese on white with a candy bar for dessert. add to that the removal of school sports and even recess as unnecessary and you can see why so many kids are developing weight problems. too bad. i like things like the wii fit video game that at least gets kids up and moving tho id really like to see some after school sports progams for kids. teach them the lifetime active leisure habits that can stay with them.\
and speaking of schools. while i was out and about today i saw a sign outside of a small town fathers day pancake breakfast. free dna test for kids. thats just fraught with worry for me. lil suzy and johnny are sweet and 8 now but in a decade when maybe they are not so sweet their dna is on file somewhere for the plucking.