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lol lol lol. Indeed.
I had a few other choice descriptors which first popped to mind, but settled on  "wedgied criticism." It rather paints picture enough, don't you think? biggrin

 

and im awaiting the emoticon portrait:) there is one, right?



Errr, well, yes, in my Photoshop, somewhere, I think,  but it's not publishable. wink

 

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I didn't notice BD and. I did not mean to confuse you either Hoot.  I'll pick something other than me to sign off as. Sorry. Sincerely, Gator

 



gator! i like that.  i was wondering how that was gonna work out with 3 anons. my head was spinning considering the possibilities!

 

 



Hey, I know! I'll be "On" and then we can have

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I didn't notice BD and. I did not mean to confuse you either Hoot.  I'll pick something other than me to sign off as. Sorry. Sincerely, Gator

 



gator! i like that.  i was wondering how that was gonna work out with 3 anons. my head was spinning considering the possibilities!

 

 




 



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lol lol lol. Indeed.
I had a few other choice descriptors which first popped to mind, but settled on  "wedgied criticism." It rather paints picture enough, don't you think? biggrin

 

and im awaiting the emoticon portrait:) there is one, right?




 



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Saw a "rumor mill" blurb where it looks as if the Cowboys may have released T.O.



 So the Buffalo Bills signed T.O. to a ONE year contract. Looks like somebody's done their homework. 

And so it goes.....



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ok, I went looking for something started by MY Turn and could not find one.
perhaps you need to be registered to see them...but i assure you they are there.
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Ok plenty there. I was stuck on page one. I didn't realize there are 9 or so.lol
if you register with a name, you can then click on my name to go to my profile page and see what was written on my whiteboard.......(but that is just one example...)


I am thinking of registering and, if I do, I can assure you that your whiteboard will suddenly seem pale to mine;)
two black sheep, huh? lol! now i am intrigued!!aww

You shouldn't be;) Gator




 

 




 

 




 

 




 



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There was a secret vote just held to remove the edit button. You have to be quick around here. ;)



so I'm not even going to mention that delete button I think I saw .. 

 



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That's the reason I'll piggy back a second little blurb or clarification or signature, at times. <BD 

I do it because the wedgied criticism it draws makes me chuckle.

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lol lol lol. Indeed.
I had a few other choice descriptors which first popped to mind, but settled on  "wedgied criticism." It rather paints picture enough, don't you think? biggrin  

 



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There was a secret vote just held to remove the edit button. You have to be quick around here. ;)



so I'm not even going to mention that delete button I think I saw .. 

 



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That's the reason I'll piggy back a second little blurb or clarification or signature, at times. <BD 

I do it because the wedgied criticism it draws makes me chuckle.

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(not really) smile

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Realizing fully that this sentence will be recalled one day, in revisionist fashion, as the day Owlie commented on her criticized wedgie. That's just how it works in the internets. 



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so I registered just to have a shot at that edit button ..lol.

well that and the fact that this is turning out to be nice place to visit too.




There was a secret vote just held to remove the edit button. You have to be quick around here. ;)



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so I registered just to have a shot at that edit button ..lol. <Nesea


Yep. It's a real "chick magnet" wink

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well that and the fact that this is turning out to be nice place to visit too.



Kewl. smile

 



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so I registered just to have a shot at that edit button ..lol.

well that and the fact that this is turning out to be nice place to visit too.



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I usually remember to sign in with my s/n and then off as "it's me" if anon, if not, no biggie, there's usually no doubt it's me when I speak, or write my mind.  <BD

Yeah, I think I've only gotten it "wrong" once (and recently, at that.) IS nice when I'm SURE it's you, though.  smile.gif


 




I didn't notice BD and. I did not mean to confuse you either Hoot.  I'll pick something other than me to sign off as. Sorry. Sincerely, Gator

 




 



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lamo .. omg, when will I get the hang of this board?

pay no attention to the numbers after my name. sheesh .......

nesea



Just wait till you try to add a photo. There's something of a hazing period in this format.  I found the easiest "edit" mode is the pre-emptive one. Other than that I don't think "anonymous" has the (upper right hand corner of your original post) option to edit. <BD, the ORIGINAL and still champion "anonymous" biggrin

Wow! I didn't know that. Yikes. I guess my "help" wasn't helpful at all, then. Sorry about that ... --------------------------------------That's the reason I'll piggy back a second little blurb or clarification or signature, at times. <BD 

I do it because the wedgied criticism it draws makes me chuckle.

rofl.gif

(not really) smile

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If you have an enrolled screenname you would see the option, window of opp to "edit" appear in the upper right corner of your own post. It's not an infinite period of time either. It remains a mystery as to how long an "edit" is offered. <BD


I'm pretty sure it's 24 hours. Seems that was the longest option available when I set up this board. The capacity to edit IS optional, btw; I think most of us here were already in agreement that we liked it, so I just went ahead and "went with" that when setting up this board.

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I usually remember to sign in with my s/n and then off as "it's me" if anon, if not, no biggie, there's usually no doubt it's me when I speak, or write my mind.  <BD

Yeah, I think I've only gotten it "wrong" once (and recently, at that.) IS nice when I'm SURE it's you, though.  smile.gif


 




 



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If you've read much here, you'll find, I think, that we speak our mind pretty freely here, and have strong disagreements a lot. It can (and does) get a little rough and tumble sometimes, but I  think each of us does try to approach issues with civility towards one another, and not because there's someone reading over our shoulders
I did see that. And accepting the fact that everyone has an opinion, sometimes strong opinions, prompted me to approach this board with a degree of care. I'm not trying to crash anyone's space or force myself into the place where you come to let down and let go (or exhale as you put it). Everyone deserves to have that.
Which brings me to this .... you may want to wait for feedback from all your current members before .... well, just before.

One last thought regarding strong opinions, I didn't mean to imply that I'm afraid to encounter them because I felt someone was judgmental. Heck, I have more than a few strong opinions myself.

My point was more about acceptance, or lack of. And I'm not saying anyone has to accept or agree with how I live my life. I don't expect that's ever going to happen. But I just can't feel neighorborly with anyone who finds pleasure in going out of their way to engage people for the sole purpose of taking a shot or two.

just sayin .....


 




i wouldnt worry so much about acceptance here...you can post whether others accept you or not...one of the nice features of this board.  i am not really all that accepted here...and there is one member that is very open with her disdain for me.  but oh well, i like reading here. it is one of the few boards where there is a wide variety of topics and intelligent discussions.  my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...i was told i should go away because i have not been on the past boards many here used to frequent.  idk...my thoughts are that it is more interesting to have different people giving input and differring (sp?) pov.  heck if three or four people wanted to discuss things among themselves, why make a public board? they could just email each other, yanno?  so even tho i am not a member of the "clique," and dont get much response to my replies and maybe one or two, if any (but usually none), to any threads i start....i still like it here.  as far as your being bi and having it as an issue to bash or harrass you....well, if that were to happen, it would open a whole kettle of fish for some here that are not exactly "out" and "proud" lesbians in other "not online" situations. therefore, i am guessing that is not likely to happen.

so welcome. post freely and enjoy your time here without worrying about others personal opinions so much.  they will like you or not...reply to you or not...still doesnt change your being a welcome member of the board.  be proud and confident in who you are and what you post.  thats all that really matters.  i think you will like it here.  i am glad to see a (to me) new face! smile

 



MY Turn, I have not read all but, from what I have read,you appear to be accepted. And, from the responses to your post I read, I thought you were an old regular;) I came here a few days ago truely anonymous (although paranoid will have some speculate) and, it was not the most polite of ways to arrive. Maybe because, I don't want it suggested to me to leave, like you said was done to you. But, unlike AOL, it is up to the owner of the board. I guess. <anonymous



Well, it's kinda different on this board. My name may be in the "owner's" slot, but that's just a technicality. This is a "group owned" board, and I don't arbitrarily make decisions about anything here. Perhaps irritatingly so, sometimes. smile 


Don't recall anyone (yet) having been "officially" asked to leave this board. (Or "unofficially" by me.) Could happen at some point, I suppose, not saying it won't ever, but <knock wood> hasn't yet, and should that day come, I assure you, if it happens in an official capactiy, won't be some decision I've made on my own. This would include people who exhibit what I consider online and "other, not online"  stalking behavior towards others who post here, who also think it such, and for about whom I've long cared. 

Such people have not been asked (by me, as "owner") to leave, nor will they be, but I, as an individual poster, don't have to support behavior which is upsetting to someone about whom I care, and won't. Sometimes, recent history more strongly dictates levels of interaction than does other ancient history.  

My personal "buttons" are fairly well established by those who have "known" me for any amount of time. If they are pushed, I don't typically roll over and play dead. I don't much cotton to unfounded accusations nor knuckle under to thinly veiled threats directed at me or those for whom I care. I don't relish "going there" but, well, as Kate advised Petruichio: "If I be waspish, best beware my sting." Yeah, I'm "loyal" to my friends -- sometimes, to the point of stupidity, and then along comes that rude awakening moment which kicks me in the teeth, and huffs, and puffs, and bloooooooooooows my "trust" paradigm down, and I have to begin building anew. "Life." Doesn't mean I have to set about to create a completely new foundation, though, or go out and buy all new lumber, when only a slat here or there may be fragmented. Just means I should probably re-examine the design, and make changes which appear prudent, which oftentimes means adding new building blocks to those which have firmly held their ground while storms blew over. Some might call those enduring pieces which join with the newer ones to make the whole, my "clique." I prefer: "friends," and consider myself fortunate indeed, to have them.  


... and am often enriched by their capacity for diplomacy.

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i wouldnt worry so much about acceptance here...you can post whether others accept you or not...one of the nice features of this board.  i am not really all that accepted here...and there is one member that is very open with her disdain for me.  but oh well, i like reading here. it is one of the few boards where there is a wide variety of topics and intelligent discussions.  my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...i was told i should go away because i have not been on the past boards many here used to frequent.  idk...my thoughts are that it is more interesting to have different people giving input and differring (sp?) pov.  heck if three or four people wanted to discuss things among themselves, why make a public board? they could just email each other, yanno?  so even tho i am not a member of the "clique," and dont get much response to my replies and maybe one or two, if any (but usually none), to any threads i start....i still like it here.  as far as your being bi and having it as an issue to bash or harrass you....well, if that were to happen, it would open a whole kettle of fish for some here that are not exactly "out" and "proud" lesbians in other "not online" situations. therefore, i am guessing that is not likely to happen.

so welcome. post freely and enjoy your time here without worrying about others personal opinions so much.  they will like you or not...reply to you or not...still doesnt change your being a welcome member of the board.  be proud and confident in who you are and what you post.  thats all that really matters.  i think you will like it here.  i am glad to see a (to me) new face! smile

 



hmmm. there are a variety of issues here and im thinking in the interest of fairness maybe some addressing of some of them, and it is of course my opinion only, and if someone feels it doesnt apply then take it as more of a universal statement.

sometimes in any community, virtual or real time, people move in and out of relationships and the moving out of occasionally creates some static among not only the 2 involved in a relationship but those who interact with them.

how does that matter? often in the moving out of things there are, for lack of a better phrase, code words or ideas that pass between people. on the surface they may seem innocent enough but they can also be ideas or words or thoughts that are meant to tweak another. for those on the sidelines its a landmine situation.
sometimes a lack of response is not knowing where something is coming from and  a not wanting to set off the landmine.

im not a fan of triangulation in any form. i believe in respecting womens abilities to work things out among themselves without fodder for enlarging conflicts or making worse.

that said there are other reasons that a post might not get responded to.
looking over some of the things ive thrown out as topics there are some that nobody has picked up on and really, that makes sense to me. not everybody sees the world as i do and things that i think hey wow look at this might be old news to others or simply not of interest.

or maybe people are in agreement with what is said. if so, well there are only so many ways to say it yanno?

or sometimes when we post its not open ended or condusive to further comments. something about the phraseology or something. im sure ive done my share of thread killing.

aside from that post to what moves you, what makes you stop and think and speak to why it moves you.

 



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ok, I went looking for something started by MY Turn and could not find one.
perhaps you need to be registered to see them...but i assure you they are there.
_______________________________________
if you register with a name, you can then click on my name to go to my profile page and see what was written on my whiteboard.......(but that is just one example...)


I am thinking of registering and, if I do, I can assure you that your whiteboard will suddenly seem pale to mine;)
two black sheep, huh? lol! now i am intrigued!!aww

 




 

 




 

 




 



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MY Turn, I have not read all but, from what I have read,you appear to be accepted.
eh...sorta, kinda.....by two members, yes. one, sorta and one, no.  but still, for the most part any threads i start...or pictures i post, will not get any response.

ok, I went looking for something started by MY Turn and could not find one.

if you register with a name, you can then click on my name to go to my profile page and see what was written on my whiteboard.......(but that is just one example...)


I am thinking of registering and, if I do, I can assure you that your whiteboard will suddenly seem pale to mine;)


lol This is a great board and, I would hate to see it infiltrated by a female bi males counterpart. Not saying this is the case. Just saying:) me

 

i completely agree.

 




 

 




 



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MY Turn, I have not read all but, from what I have read,you appear to be accepted. 
eh...sorta, kinda.....by two members, yes. one, sorta and one, no.  but still, for the most part any threads i start...or pictures i post, will not get any response. 

if you register with a name, you can then click on my name to go to my profile page and see what was written on my whiteboard.......(but that is just one example...)


 lol This is a great board and, I would hate to see it infiltrated by a female bi males counterpart. Not saying this is the case. Just saying:) me

 

i completely agree.

 




 



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If you've read much here, you'll find, I think, that we speak our mind pretty freely here, and have strong disagreements a lot. It can (and does) get a little rough and tumble sometimes, but I  think each of us does try to approach issues with civility towards one another, and not because there's someone reading over our shoulders
I did see that. And accepting the fact that everyone has an opinion, sometimes strong opinions, prompted me to approach this board with a degree of care. I'm not trying to crash anyone's space or force myself into the place where you come to let down and let go (or exhale as you put it). Everyone deserves to have that.
Which brings me to this .... you may want to wait for feedback from all your current members before .... well, just before.

One last thought regarding strong opinions, I didn't mean to imply that I'm afraid to encounter them because I felt someone was judgmental. Heck, I have more than a few strong opinions myself.

My point was more about acceptance, or lack of. And I'm not saying anyone has to accept or agree with how I live my life. I don't expect that's ever going to happen. But I just can't feel neighorborly with anyone who finds pleasure in going out of their way to engage people for the sole purpose of taking a shot or two.

just sayin .....


 




i wouldnt worry so much about acceptance here...you can post whether others accept you or not...one of the nice features of this board.  i am not really all that accepted here...and there is one member that is very open with her disdain for me.  but oh well, i like reading here. it is one of the few boards where there is a wide variety of topics and intelligent discussions.  my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...i was told i should go away because i have not been on the past boards many here used to frequent.  idk...my thoughts are that it is more interesting to have different people giving input and differring (sp?) pov.  heck if three or four people wanted to discuss things among themselves, why make a public board? they could just email each other, yanno?  so even tho i am not a member of the "clique," and dont get much response to my replies and maybe one or two, if any (but usually none), to any threads i start....i still like it here.  as far as your being bi and having it as an issue to bash or harrass you....well, if that were to happen, it would open a whole kettle of fish for some here that are not exactly "out" and "proud" lesbians in other "not online" situations. therefore, i am guessing that is not likely to happen.

so welcome. post freely and enjoy your time here without worrying about others personal opinions so much.  they will like you or not...reply to you or not...still doesnt change your being a welcome member of the board.  be proud and confident in who you are and what you post.  thats all that really matters.  i think you will like it here.  i am glad to see a (to me) new face! smile

 



MY Turn, I have not read all but, from what I have read,you appear to be accepted. And, from the responses to your post I read, I thought you were an old regular;) I came here a few days ago truely anonymous (although paranoid will have some speculate) and, it was not the most polite of ways to arrive. Maybe because, I don't want it suggested to me to leave, like you said was done to you. But, unlike AOL, it is up to the owner of the board. I guess. I remember the name Nessea but, can not put a personality to it. I have strong opinions about bi sexuality only when it attaches itself to Lesbian ideals. And, even less strong opinions when I feel I am a guest and, not a customer like I was with AOL. lol This is a great board and, I would hate to see it infiltrated by a female bi males counterpart. Not saying this is the case. Just saying:) me

 



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 my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...

I really don't have any history with any name I've seen on this board.

And thanks for the welcome.

nesea56J6



ok. i guess this:

hi nesea. i remember your name from the aol boards. nice to see you 

is what made me think others already knew you...... 

 



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lamo .. omg, when will I get the hang of this board?

pay no attention to the numbers after my name. sheesh .......

nesea



Just wait till you try to add a photo. There's something of a hazing period in this format.  I found the easiest "edit" mode is the pre-emptive one. Other than that I don't think "anonymous" has the (upper right hand corner of your original post) option to edit. That's the reason I'll piggy back a second little blurb or clarification or signature, at times. If you have an enrolled screenname you would see the option, window of opp to "edit" appear in the upper right corner of your own post. It's not an infinite period of time either. It remains a mystery as to how long an "edit" is offered. I usually remember to sign in with my s/n and then off as "it's me" if anon, if not, no biggie, there's usually no doubt it's me when I speak, or write my mind.  

 



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see it's gotten worse.

how does one "edit" a post?




 Click "edit post" make your change(s) then hit "submit post."



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see it's gotten worse.

how does one "edit" a post?





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lamo .. omg, when will I get the hang of this board?

pay no attention to the numbers after my name. sheesh .......

nesea



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 my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...

I really don't have any history with any name I've seen on this board.

And thanks for the welcome.

nesea56J6


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If you've read much here, you'll find, I think, that we speak our mind pretty freely here, and have strong disagreements a lot. It can (and does) get a little rough and tumble sometimes, but I  think each of us does try to approach issues with civility towards one another, and not because there's someone reading over our shoulders
 
I did see that. And accepting the fact that everyone has an opinion, sometimes strong opinions, prompted me to approach this board with a degree of care. I'm not trying to crash anyone's space or force myself into the place where you come to let down and let go (or exhale as you put it). Everyone deserves to have that.
 
Which brings me to this .... you may want to wait for feedback from all your current members before .... well, just before.

One last thought regarding strong opinions, I didn't mean to imply that I'm afraid to encounter them because I felt someone was judgmental. Heck, I have more than a few strong opinions myself.

My point was more about acceptance, or lack of. And I'm not saying anyone has to accept or agree with how I live my life. I don't expect that's ever going to happen. But I just can't feel neighorborly with anyone who finds pleasure in going out of their way to engage people for the sole purpose of taking a shot or two.

just sayin .....


 




i wouldnt worry so much about acceptance here...you can post whether others accept you or not...one of the nice features of this board.  i am not really all that accepted here...and there is one member that is very open with her disdain for me.  but oh well, i like reading here. it is one of the few boards where there is a wide variety of topics and intelligent discussions.  my guess is you might be more accepted since you have a "history" with some of the members here...i was told i should go away because i have not been on the past boards many here used to frequent.  idk...my thoughts are that it is more interesting to have different people giving input and differring (sp?) pov.  heck if three or four people wanted to discuss things among themselves, why make a public board? they could just email each other, yanno?  so even tho i am not a member of the "clique," and dont get much response to my replies and maybe one or two, if any (but usually none), to any threads i start....i still like it here.  as far as your being bi and having it as an issue to bash or harrass you....well, if that were to happen, it would open a whole kettle of fish for some here that are not exactly "out" and "proud" lesbians in other "not online" situations. therefore, i am guessing that is not likely to happen.  

so welcome. post freely and enjoy your time here without worrying about others personal opinions so much.  they will like you or not...reply to you or not...still doesnt change your being a welcome member of the board.  be proud and confident in who you are and what you post.  thats all that really matters.  i think you will like it here.  i am glad to see a (to me) new face! smile



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how do you turn on the "adult" thingy?


BTW ... I had three other answers at the ready, but no drum kit for the required rim-shot. wink




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oops ... sorry about those last two posts. Did them without even thinking about quoting what i was addressing. I'll do better with this one.

 
At one point, a man from GB was brought to WWET, and some on that board began blatantly flirting with him, others, less blatantly, but flirting, nonetheless, and he of course, flirted right back (and insulted, with words reductive and demeaning to women, those who didn't like it.) 
 
I've been dealing for the last four months with a plumber who is one of those "Here, little lady, let me show you how to do that the right way" guys, who has, several times, then grabbed something right out of my hands, and pretty much wrecked it. That may be extreme, but when I open this board, I sort of exhale, because I know for a fact I won't be dealing with that kind of male chest thumping and crowing. Not that all guys are like that, of course, but there are certainly enough who are, and who would be startled if you suggested to them that they were anything other than "feminist" men.

I have scrambled your thoughts here, but only to say I understand what you're saying. We had a similar situation way back on the bi board where one of the posters husband began posting ... under her name. A few regular posters took exception and asked that at the very least he use a screen name that would allow everyone to determine who the poster was.
 
and that's all I'm going to say about that ... but that was only the beginning of the story. There was a lot more not worth crawling back into.   
 
If you've read much here, you'll find, I think, that we speak our mind pretty freely here, and have strong disagreements a lot. It can (and does) get a little rough and tumble sometimes, but I  think each of us does try to approach issues with civility towards one another, and not because there's someone reading over our shoulders
 
I did see that. And accepting the fact that everyone has an opinion, sometimes strong opinions, prompted me to approach this board with a degree of care. I'm not trying to crash anyone's space or force myself into the place where you come to let down and let go (or exhale as you put it). Everyone deserves to have that.
 
Which brings me to this .... you may want to wait for feedback from all your current members before .... well, just before.

One last thought regarding strong opinions, I didn't mean to imply that I'm afraid to encounter them because I felt someone was judgmental. Heck, I have more than a few strong opinions myself.

My point was more about acceptance, or lack of. And I'm not saying anyone has to accept or agree with how I live my life. I don't expect that's ever going to happen. But I just can't feel neighorborly with anyone who finds pleasure in going out of their way to engage people for the sole purpose of taking a shot or two.

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lol .. only three huh ?  

believe it or not, I do actually have THAT part worked out ... <bg>


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got it .. thanks.

and yep, there's three boards there now.



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Yeah, the timing of your appearance here was ... interesting. LOL. Did cause me to think, I confess.

lol.. honestly, it seems life takes measure of our views at any given moment and then sends a challenge.

Nicely stated. :)

I guess my sense is that it's what one affirms about themselves, which most matters to me -- that really, it's not about exclusion, not from that standpoint, although I can understand how it might be viewed in that light. It's truly about inclusion -- the women here can be, have been, or are attracted to women -- thats the baseline connection here, really, in terms of  the classification of this board. 

At one point, a man from GB was brought to WWET, and some on that board began blatantly flirting with him, others, less blatantly, but flirting, nonetheless, and he of course, flirted right back (and insulted, with words reductive and demeaning to women, those who didn't like it.) 

That sort of flirtatious interaction is fine other places (like: "THE REST OF THE WORLD") but I just don't like seeing that on a lesbian board... don't like bumping into it. Flirting can be fun, and I know a lot of my gay male pals and I used to do it tongue in cheek, and enjoyed it, but not on a lesbian message board. :) The one (perhaps) shortcoming about Sparklit is that you can't filter posters. 

If you've read much here, you'll find, I think, that we speak our mind pretty freely here, and have strong disagreements a lot. It can (and does) get a little rough and tumble sometimes, but I  think each of us does try to approach issues with civility towards one another, and not because there's someone reading over our shoulders thwaping us in the head if we speak in a way they don't like.
It's long been my feeling that adult lesbians can self govern and don't need big brother stepping in and telling them to "behave like ladies." That was something I always found tremendously irksome on AOL, from Dan the man (as one poster dubbed him) through Joey the Manna. I remember how the majority of posters on WWET would get irritated when they'd "give" us topics to discuss, because, for the most part, they were men posting on a lesbian board, and then too, because it was so patronizing. Times change, things change, people change. <shrug> We don't have that problem here on Sparklit, though, and, well, you've already read the debate about men on "lesbian" boards, and where some of us (two? LOL) now stand on that issue, at least from a semantic POV.

I've been dealing for the last four months with a plumber who is one of those "Here, little lady, let me show you how to do that the right way" guys, who has, several times, then grabbed something right out of my hands, and pretty much wrecked it. That may be extreme, but when I open this board, I sort of exhale, because I know for a fact I won't be dealing with that kind of male chest thumping and crowing. Not that all guys are like that, of course, but there are certainly enough who are, and who would be startled if you suggested to them that they were anything other than "feminist" men. I think to some extent, it's impossible for the (American) male raised in this patriarchal society to escape that, and it's not wholly their fault. I know it's not easy to undo a lifetime of training, from both men and women, and shed completely the male entitlement thing. I know specific places may address that (sometimes, for instance, it's good parenting) but the fact remains that until there is equal distribution of the power (again, in most of this country) there will remain at least some nuance of "entitlement" whether it's outwardly expressed or not in men. And again: it's not  completely their fault, and, well, let's face it -- there's not a lot of incentive for them to give it up. I mean, why would they, when it almost completely works for them in their favor just about everywhere they go?

But those things are not, nor will they be, an issue here. This board is one tiny little place in the world, where a woman may know she doesn't ever have to worry about or be on the ready to deal with any of that, because it can't happen here, as long as this remains a "lesbian" board. :)  


 



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how do you turn on the "adult" thingy?
 


BTW ... I had three other answers at the ready, but no drum kit for the required rim-shot. wink 




 



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how do you turn on the "adult" thingy? I only saw 2 boards listed under lesbian .. this one and lesbians who enjoy thinking members only board.

 


I had the same "default" problem, and mistakenly thought there were only two lesbian forums. Somewhere, I need to change some setting I have, but I don't know where, and frankly, it's not that big a deal to me, because I don't often go there.

On the ... well, it's the second page, once you've gotten into the "Life" section, where you see (for instance) "Lesbians." in the upper right hand corner in a grayish box, you'll see in small print something like "displaying family friendly forums" and off to the side, a little plus sign. If you click that sign, it'll open up another page, and then you put a check by "adult forums" and then (I think) click it again, ("update" maybe??) and that should do the trick.  You'll find a few more forums there (including the ones you already saw) but it's not like night and day, or anything. smile

 



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Yeah, the timing of your appearance here was ... interesting. LOL. Did cause me to think, I confess.

lol.. honestly, it seems life takes measure of our views at any given moment and then sends a challenge.

I'm not "bi" and don't presume to speak for anyone who is, nor do I want to commit some linguistic faux pas which I'll regret.  

no worries about semantics .. hell, we're still working it out and it's been about 13 yrs. Feel free to ask questions. All I ask is that you keep an open mind regarding the answers ... lol.
 

It seems to me, though, any woman who has a capacity to love (in a romantic way) and be sexually attracted to another woman is welcome on this board. I'm just one poster here, but that's my feeling. You said you decided to drop in because this was a lesbian board, and an open board. You're right on both counts.  smile 

For what it's worth, I did stop by the bi board listed in the directory before coming here, but they're door nail dead and I didn't recognize a single name.


Pleasure to meet ya, and hope to see more posts from you.

thanks. 

 
Incidentally, the community does live on, but in various places. Some are still on AOL boards ("lesbians 60 and over" at this point, I think) and others have created their own boards. In addition to this one, there are two on this Sparklit network from AOL alum -- SeasideHuny has a board here called "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" and Kwach has one called "The Other Board."

hmmm .. wow, I do recognize the names ... not sure if I would consider the Kwach name as a friendly. I recall a few years ago Kwach made her way over to the aol bi board, which was ok, but then came off pretty judgmental. I recall feeling a bit provoked. SeasideHuny is a name that's only vaguely familiar ... one of those names I recall but can't attach a personality or emotion to.
 
Kwach's is listed in the lesbian section of the diretory, and Huny's is in the LGB section.

To see either, you have to have your "adult" thing on. I tried to get the links but lost this page when I did, but below this screen, I think, you'll see a little box which says something like "find other message boards" and if you go into the ... oy ... I think it's "Life" section, you'll find the GLBT section, and you can go from there.

how do you turn on the "adult" thingy? I only saw 2 boards listed under lesbian .. this one and lesbians who enjoy thinking members only board.
 


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hi nesea. i remember your name from the aol boards. nice to see you 


Hi psych lit. Funny how the aol boards turned into such a community, isn't it? There are so many names I became familiar with over the years, although I never really interacted with a lot of them. 

I was hesitant to post after reading the discussion about 100% pure vs a diluted board population, but figured worst case scenario is that I'd be shown the virtual door .

Glad I stumbled across this place though and I can't promise I won't lurk on occasion. It's nice to know the communities live on.

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Hi. smile


Yeah, the timing of your appearance here was ... interesting. LOL. Did cause me to think, I confess.


I'm not "bi" and don't presume to speak for anyone who is, nor do I want to commit some linguistic faux pas which I'll regret.  


It seems to me, though, any woman who has a capacity to love (in a romantic way) and be sexually attracted to another woman is welcome on this board. I'm just one poster here, but that's my feeling. You said you decided to drop in because this was a lesbian board, and an open board. You're right on both counts.  smile 

Pleasure to meet ya, and hope to see more posts from you.

Incidentally, the community does live on, but in various places. Some are still on AOL boards ("lesbians 60 and over" at this point, I think) and others have created their own boards. In addition to this one, there are two on this Sparklit network from AOL alum -- SeasideHuny has a board here called "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" and Kwach has one called "The Other Board."

Kwach's is listed in the lesbian section of the diretory, and Huny's is in the LGB section.

To see either, you have to have your "adult" thing on. I tried to get the links but lost this page when I did, but below this screen, I think, you'll see a little box which says something like "find other message boards" and if you go into the ... oy ... I think it's "Life" section, you'll find the GLBT section, and you can go from there.


 




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hi nesea. i remember your name from the aol boards. nice to see you 


Hi psych lit. Funny how the aol boards turned into such a community, isn't it? There are so many names I became familiar with over the years, although I never really interacted with a lot of them. 

I was hesitant to post after reading the discussion about 100% pure vs a diluted board population, but figured worst case scenario is that I'd be shown the virtual door .

Glad I stumbled across this place though and I can't promise I won't lurk on occasion. It's nice to know the communities live on.

nesea






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oh and hey .. i truly am an anonymous. I used to (ok, still do on occasion) post on the ::: gasp ::: bi board on aol but  only lurked on wwet and crabby boards. I must not have been paying attention because it took me awhile to figure out where everybody went ... but here some of you are <g>  So, seeing that this was an open (lesbian) board  I thought I would dip a toe in ... but I understand if you're not comfortable with the fact that I'm bi.
no harm, no foul

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hi nesea. i remember your name from the aol boards. nice to see you  




 



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True, the cowboys were aware of the baggage T.O. brought with him .... but I would bet there was plenty of "they didn't understand me" sprinkled with "that wasn't really how it happened" and a dash of "I can make this work"  " thrown in for good measure.

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was reading an article yesterday and the sports writer said .. "Watch how relaxed Romo plays now, knowing he can operate like most other nfl quarterbacks and just seek the open guy .. not worrying about checking t.o. status before tossing to another receiver .. every .. single ... down. That's a luxury he doesn't have. Hasn't had. 

T.O. is a talent, there's no denying. But his price goes well beyond the dollars spent. Sad that he can't work for success beyond his own.

You're right when you say .. one bad apple. Fact of the matter is ..  that's one expensive barrel he's spoiling.



oh and hey .. i truly am an anonymous. I used to (ok, still do on occasion) post on the ::: gasp ::: bi board on aol but  only lurked on wwet and crabby boards. I must not have been paying attention because it took me awhile to figure out where everybody went ... but here some of you are <g>  So, seeing that this was an open (lesbian) board  I thought I would dip a toe in ... but I understand if you're not comfortable with the fact that I'm bi. 
no harm, no foul

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Saw a "rumor mill" blurb where it looks as if the Cowboys may have released T.O.

What a sad thing that is ... such incredible talent, but denied again, because of the terrible attitude which accompanies it. More common, perhaps, in lesser degree, than we think about. Employers these days are of the frame of mind that there's plenty of talent out there from which to choose, and so they look at that talent pool for attitude and temperment a lot these days.

I know there are people who have a skill or something I may appreciate at some level, but their attitude precludes me from interacting with them in order to get that small "reward" such as it may be. It's a matter of weighing pros and cons, and then making an informed decision with which one may live. We do it all the time, in all sorts of relationships, don't we. It's the prioritization which sometimes causes me difficulty. Sometimes, in relationships, I'm willing to let things slide I perhaps shouldn't, because the other part of the package is so inviting. How do you know? It seemed as though TO would retire one day as a Cowboy. In part, because they're an okay franchise, (if you like the Cowboys, which I don't particularly) but also because ... well, let's face it -- his options were dwindling before he went there. The Cowboys knew (or at least had a fairly informed awareness) of what they were getting into when they signed on T.O. and did so anyway -- presumably because they thought the talent carried more weight than being a "team" player.

The flaw in that reasoning is glaring, isn't it.

Years ago, when I directed, I always cast a company member with attitude taking precedence over talent. Rotten apples/barrels ... one company member with a "bad" attitude can destroy an ensemble, and especially when people are working together long-term, that is of immense import.

I hope TO gets his act together some day. It's a hope I don't have a lot of confidence I'll see realized, but sustain, nonetheless.

Just a kinda sad thing, really... no

 



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