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Wanda Sykes, my guess is she shifted further to the left after this last California election and her "coming out" party. Otherwise....




Why would you say that? Is "gay" a left/right issue, really?


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Wanda Sykes, my guess is she shifted further to the left after this last California election and her "coming out" party. Otherwise....

<me>......................<topic>............................<ten foot poll>
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chicken...


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Look, I'm mad, yeah, but it's at STOOOOOOOOPID stuff like this wah wah bs which most burns my hide.

I love politics.
I'm what one might call a political junkie.
I'm mad as hell that we got swindled out of a campaign in 2008.

NONE of this sort of stuff about funding the Arts ever came to the surface -- not really. Instead, people zoomed in on how "creepy" McCain's hands looked, or the color of his teeth. Palin's politics didn't matter NEARLY as much as the fact that she'd shot an animal, or was photo shopped in a swim suit with a rifle.

I feel as if I've missed my meds I have to take every four years, and it's starting to hurt.


PLUS, the liberals in California  -- the liberals in the entertainment industry were TARGETED by the federal government under the leader of Joseph McCarthy. Many never worked again, and those who did, always carried a mark from that time, which went in and out of favor. That the CONSERVATIVES are now whining about their "mistreatment" just really burns my hide.

If you went to that site you noticed, I'm sure, that the "blue" list -- the conservative side was nearly twice as long as the "red" or liberal one. The author of the article Psych posted made it sound as if only six republicans in Hollywood were brave enough to show their faces. Balderdash.



I'm NO chicken. Just have to run, literally.But, the blue side had more dead people on it. confused.gif



HEY! Don't look at ME! 



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LOL -- I had to try to take this photo three times, because Buck kept trying to EAT the button. biggrin


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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Wanda Sykes, my guess is she shifted further to the left after this last California election and her "coming out" party. Otherwise....

<me>......................<topic>............................<ten foot poll>
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smile 

chicken...


wink
Look, I'm mad, yeah, but it's at STOOOOOOOOPID stuff like this wah wah bs which most burns my hide.

I love politics.
I'm what one might call a political junkie.
I'm mad as hell that we got swindled out of a campaign in 2008.

NONE of this sort of stuff about funding the Arts ever came to the surface -- not really. Instead, people zoomed in on how "creepy" McCain's hands looked, or the color of his teeth. Palin's politics didn't matter NEARLY as much as the fact that she'd shot an animal, or was photo shopped in a swim suit with a rifle.

I feel as if I've missed my meds I have to take every four years, and it's starting to hurt.


PLUS, the liberals in California  -- the liberals in the entertainment industry were TARGETED by the federal government under the leader of Joseph McCarthy. Many never worked again, and those who did, always carried a mark from that time, which went in and out of favor. That the CONSERVATIVES are now whining about their "mistreatment" just really burns my hide.

If you went to that site you noticed, I'm sure, that the "blue" list -- the conservative side was nearly twice as long as the "red" or liberal one. The author of the article Psych posted made it sound as if only six republicans in Hollywood were brave enough to show their faces. Balderdash.



I'm NO chicken. Just have to run, literally.But, the blue side had more dead people on it. confused.gif



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In a nutshell:

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Wanda Sykes, my guess is she shifted further to the left after this last California election and her "coming out" party. Otherwise....

<me>......................<topic>............................<ten foot poll>
;)



smile 

chicken...


wink
Look, I'm mad, yeah, but it's at STOOOOOOOOPID stuff like this wah wah bs which most burns my hide.

I love politics.
I'm what one might call a political junkie.
I'm mad as hell that we got swindled out of a campaign in 2008.

NONE of this sort of stuff about funding the Arts ever came to the surface -- not really. Instead, people zoomed in on how "creepy" McCain's hands looked, or the color of his teeth. Palin's politics didn't matter NEARLY as much as the fact that she'd shot an animal, or was photo shopped in a swim suit with a rifle.

I feel as if I've missed my meds I have to take every four years, and it's starting to hurt.


PLUS, the liberals in California  -- the liberals in the entertainment industry were TARGETED by the federal government under the leader of Joseph McCarthy. Many never worked again, and those who did, always carried a mark from that time, which went in and out of favor. That the CONSERVATIVES are now whining about their "mistreatment" just really burns my hide.

If you went to that site you noticed, I'm sure, that the "blue" list -- the conservative side was nearly twice as long as the "red" or liberal one. The author of the article Psych posted made it sound as if only six republicans in Hollywood were brave enough to show their faces. Balderdash.



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Wanda Sykes, my guess is she shifted further to the left after this last California election and her "coming out" party. Otherwise....

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If you were in the entertainment industry, would you have supported John McCain??


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Thursday, September 04, 2008

McCain on Arts Funding

We've gone a few rounds on whether federal arts funding is a good or bad thing here, but on the eve of John McCain's acceptance speech as the GOP Presidential nominee, I thought I should look a little more closely at what his position on the matter is.

There is nothing at all about arts funding (or the importance of the arts to the nation) on his website that I could find.

There are several blogposts about his long-standing rejection of the notion that federal dollars should ever be spent to support organizations like the NEA, and this article from the University of Southern California:
McCain... has a historical track record of supporting anti-arts legislation, including the 1999 Smith-Ashcroft Amendment, which would have cut all funding for the NEA; and the 1989 Helms Amendment, which aimed to deny funding to art considered obscene. McCain doesnt have an arts policy, other than a desire to eliminate spending directed toward the arts.
In fact, in one analysis of how a McCain administration would spend federal money, the arts are singled out among a long list of other possibilities as the only place he would entirely eliminate funding. He'd increase funding for police and military needs, but for arts, and according to this source, arts alone, it's a total elimination:
  • AIDS programs
  • Environmental programs
  • Foreign aid
  • Housing projects
  • Job training programs
  • Medicaid & Medicare
  • Student loan programs
  • Education (K-12)
  • Law enforcement
  • Military & Veterans Benefits
  • Border Control
  • NASA
  • Welfare
  • Arts funding
I know that will endear him to some readers here, but in light of how he's approaching some other "entitlement" programs, this strikes me as a virtually hostile position toward the arts (not to mention, not at all likely to offset the tax cuts for the wealthy he proposes making permanent).

In response to this attitude toward a government's involvement/responsibility in supporting the arts, I would point out that among the more conservative people I spoke with recently about how they liked (or didn't like) the 2008 Summer Olympics, and there was plenty of bellyaching about what they assumed must be unfair judging or under-age athletes, not to mention human rights abuses, by the host country, the one thing they all agreed that they truly loved was the artistry and pageantry of the opening and closing ceremonies. That's what they remembered most fondly about the games, what they marveled at, what softened their otherwise harsh opinions of the Chinese: their art.

We can't afford a president who doesn't understand how the arts go hand in hand with improving your image abroad. Forget that this is the man who didn't have the wherewithal, especially among his staff, to avoid letting this photo happen...

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...not understanding that one of America's remaining areas of dominance is its culture makes him uniquely unqualified to lead us into the 21st Century, where images are increasingly the new lingua franca and art one of the most powerful tools for diplomacy. I think it's fine to debate whether federal dollars should be spent on the arts, but McCain has no position on our cultural heritage, other than eliminating arts funding, that I can find. Anyone else knowing otherwise, please share.

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And FURTHERMORE ... LOL

WHO CARES?

It would only make sense that there are more democrats than republicans in the Arts -- republicans have long made it their business to cut Arts funds every chance they get. Why would anyone work to support people who are out to eliminate their jobs?

Now: let's look at other groups. Anyone kicking up dust because there are more republican MD's than democratic? Pilots? How about sport teams owners? How about newspaper owners?



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robert downey jr and dennis hopper? id never have thunk it.

Hollywood Conservatives Encouraged to Come Out of the Closet

Monday, January 05, 2009


A once-timid group of social outcasts is emerging from the shadows in Hollywood. If the past year is any indication, Tinseltown may have to get accustomed to the loud presence of a growing minority.

After years of silence, conservatives are coming out of the closet.



Awwwwww bless their little trod upon hearts. I do hope that ultra liberal actor-turned governor there doesn't hear of this ...



Andrew Breitbart, the conservative founder of Breitbart.com and author of "Hollywood Interrupted: Insanity Chic in Babylon," is launching a Web site he hopes will help challenge the status quo in what he believes has been a one-party, left-tilting town. Set to debut on Jan. 6, "Big Hollywood" will be a place where center, right and libertarian-leaning celebrities and industry-insiders can weigh in on Hollywood politics, offer film, television and movie reviews, and have an open forum for political discussion.

"Our goal," says Breitbart, who lives in Los Angeles, "is to create an atmosphere of tolerance something that does not exist in this town."

Breitbart has invited a number of conservative politicians, commentators and journalists to write regularly about the cult of celebrity, liberalism in popular culture, and politics. Among the names who will be contributing, he says, are Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va), political commentator Tucker Carlson, and former Tennessee Senator and Republican presidential contender Fred Thompson.

The site will also feature the punditry of some well-known Hollywood actors, directors, producers, and writers, Breitbart says.



So then ... "tolerance" but only for conservatives, and centrists, eh?



As celebrities like Jon Voight, Gary Sinise, Charlton Heston, Patricia Heaton, Stephen Baldwin and Kelsey Grammer came out publicly with their political ideas over the past few years, the news that there were, in fact, conservatives in Hollywood, had many wondering who would be next.

Recently, there have been rumors that Robert Downey Jr. is a closet Republican, though his publicist will neither confirm nor deny it, saying only, "We unfortunately have no comment, as RDJ does not comment on political matters."

But Breitbart says the goal of Big Hollywood is not to "out" conservative celebrities, and he will not pressure celebrities like Downey to jump into the fray.


But he WILL stir the pot a wee bit...



He says conservative celebs who aren't comfortable with full transparency will be allowed to write under an alias.

"I want them to come on their own volition," he says. "'Big Hollywood is going to have to be a compelling daily read that speaks to Hollywood conservatives' unique burden before some will stick their necks out and choose to speak up for what they believe."

Sticking their necks out has not always been good for business. Mark Vafiades, president of the Hollywood Congress of Republicans, says, "I'm hoping that one day politics won't make a difference in Hollywood. But because there is still subtle intolerance here, conservatives remain somewhat shy.

"If you come to an audition wearing a Bush or McCain button, the casting director will most likely pick another actor.


Well, DUH! If you go to an audition with a button that says: "I like apple pie with CHEESE on it" the casting director will most likely pick another actor! Who the HELL would EVER think of wearing a political button to an AUDITION?? If the part being sought is a REPUBLICAN campaign worker, then yeah, wear the button if you wish, but "waitress?" "Bus driver?" "Police officer?" Do any of those professions wear political buttons to work? If you want to sell yourself as one of them, why would YOU!?!?





Just being on a set you hear people bashing Bush and the right, because they assume everyone agrees."


That's absurd.
Only the sane people on the set will agree.

Some have suggested the purported anti-conservative tilt in Hollywood is overstated if it exists at all. Perez Hilton, the self-proclaimed "Queen of All Media" and author of his eponymous gossip site, said, "I think Hollywood is very tolerant. They may mock you for your political beliefs, but at least they'll do it to your face!

"It won't ever interfere with people getting a job. Kelsey Grammer still works!"

But some conservatives in the entertainment industry say there may not be a literal blacklist in Hollywood, but there is pressure to keep silent.

"Conservatives don't necessarily have to be covert about their politics, but in many cases they are because the liberals aren't fair and balanced towards those with differing points of view," says Jerry Molen, the Oscar-winning producer of big Hollywood hits like "Schindler's List," "Jurassic Park" and "Rain Man."

"In too many cases, conservatives are immediately labeled racist, homophobic, bigoted, hateful, demonic, or even un-American without the benefit of debate, and are locked out of the hiring process, with a few exceptions."


But it's okay to label liberals unfair, and prejudiced? And there's that "un-American" reference again. Let's see ... I think I stumbled upon that recently ... funny thing ... I can't remember it coming from a LIBERAL ... not only recently, but (although I've no doubt it HAS) I can't recall a LIBERAL saying that EVER. It's not part of the liberal jargon, really, is it. Liberals aren't the ones first pointed to when the authorship of "evil-doers" and "anti-American" is questioned.


But the doors may be slowly opening "An American Carol," a conservative parody that lampooned liberal Hollywood this year, galvanized conservative celebrities like Robert Davi, Dennis Hopper, Kevin Farley, Voight and Grammer, all of whom had roles in the film.

And conservative film festivals, including the American Film Renaissance and the Liberty Film Festival, have also helped bring to market conservative projects that a few years ago might have had a difficult time getting made.

Some industry insiders credit John McCain with helping to embolden Hollywood conservatives during this year's presidential election. Andrew Klavan, a conservative author and screenwriter of psychological thrillers including True Crime and Don't Say A Word, said, "For people who had a lot to lose, McCain gave them some cover. He wasn't a true Republican like Bush was. He was someone even the left liked, whereas Bush was demonized.

What a load of crap. John McCain is as republican as they come, and I don't care HOW many times he jumps up and down and squeals: "No! No! I'm A MAVERICK! I'm a MAVERICK!" There has never EVER been any real doubt on the left that John McCain is a republican. A republican who sure has made the SNL appearance more than once.



Hollywood conservatives could support McCain without necessarily supporting the GOP."

Klavan suggested that a spate of recent political movies like "Rendition" and "Redaction" also strengthened the conservative cause.

"These movies are genuinely anti-American. Never before have we had anti-war movies made while our troops were at war. Many people like me were ashamed of the industry, and there's been a bit of a backlash."



See, maybe it's not being a republican which is so off putting, so much as it is running around, flapping your jaws in producer's faces, calling work "anti-American" that makes you not a sought after commodity.

Vafiades says increasing numbers of conservatives have joined his organization in the past year, and more organizations like his are sprouting up.

But hush-hush groups like "Friends of Abe," a secretive society of Hollywood conservatives, still operate well under the radar.


Yeah. I know I, for one, would never in a million years suspect that was a republican group <eyeroll> Same for the LOG CABIN republicans.



And the increased spotlight on conservative celebrities has not changed the political climate as much as Breitbart, Vafiades, Molen and Klavan would like.

They say liberal celebrities still have an easier time "being political" than conservatives do.

"Sean Penn is out dancing with dictators, and no one gives him flak. Instead they give him Oscar nominations," says Klavan.


Oscar nominations are based upon a person's performance in their chosen line of WORK -- NOT their political party registration. Sound to me like this guy thinks Penn's work should be completely written off because he's painted him that odious "liberal" hue.



"Jon Voight may have some semblance of job security, but he still has to be careful about what he says."




Hogwash.

1. Unlike Jon Voight, Sean Penn is not over seventy. How many roles in that age range do you find in film? An abundance? No.


2. Jon Voight has never "been careful" about what he's said. He was an outspoken anti-Viet Nam war activist, and a George McGovern campaigner. He has since recanted that earlier work, saying he's ashamed of it, now. He campaigned openly for Giuliani during the primary, and even made an appearance via You Tube at the republican national convention in 2008. Somewhere in between the two, he got his academy award.   
No one in the business has "job security." The cliche is true: you're only as good as your last show.

That said, I don't recall many Hollywood REPUBLICANS being called to those HUAC hearings, or being blacklisted, so maybe the author of this piece is just jealous, and wants desperately to be a put-upon minority. Maybe Ronnie R. will rise up from his grave and give this whiney dude FROM FOX NEWS some pointers.
bleh


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robert downey jr and dennis hopper? id never have thunk it.

Hollywood Conservatives Encouraged to Come Out of the Closet

Monday, January 05, 2009

A once-timid group of social outcasts is emerging from the shadows in Hollywood. If the past year is any indication, Tinseltown may have to get accustomed to the loud presence of a growing minority.

After years of silence, conservatives are coming out of the closet.

Andrew Breitbart, the conservative founder of Breitbart.com and author of "Hollywood Interrupted: Insanity Chic in Babylon," is launching a Web site he hopes will help challenge the status quo in what he believes has been a one-party, left-tilting town. Set to debut on Jan. 6, "Big Hollywood" will be a place where center, right and libertarian-leaning celebrities and industry-insiders can weigh in on Hollywood politics, offer film, television and movie reviews, and have an open forum for political discussion.

"Our goal," says Breitbart, who lives in Los Angeles, "is to create an atmosphere of tolerance something that does not exist in this town."

Breitbart has invited a number of conservative politicians, commentators and journalists to write regularly about the cult of celebrity, liberalism in popular culture, and politics. Among the names who will be contributing, he says, are Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va), political commentator Tucker Carlson, and former Tennessee Senator and Republican presidential contender Fred Thompson.

The site will also feature the punditry of some well-known Hollywood actors, directors, producers, and writers, Breitbart says.

As celebrities like Jon Voight, Gary Sinise, Charlton Heston, Patricia Heaton, Stephen Baldwin and Kelsey Grammer came out publicly with their political ideas over the past few years, the news that there were, in fact, conservatives in Hollywood, had many wondering who would be next.

Recently, there have been rumors that Robert Downey Jr. is a closet Republican, though his publicist will neither confirm nor deny it, saying only, "We unfortunately have no comment, as RDJ does not comment on political matters."

But Breitbart says the goal of Big Hollywood is not to "out" conservative celebrities, and he will not pressure celebrities like Downey to jump into the fray. He says conservative celebs who aren't comfortable with full transparency will be allowed to write under an alias.

"I want them to come on their own volition," he says. "'Big Hollywood is going to have to be a compelling daily read that speaks to Hollywood conservatives' unique burden before some will stick their necks out and choose to speak up for what they believe."

Sticking their necks out has not always been good for business. Mark Vafiades, president of the Hollywood Congress of Republicans, says, "I'm hoping that one day politics won't make a difference in Hollywood. But because there is still subtle intolerance here, conservatives remain somewhat shy.

"If you come to an audition wearing a Bush or McCain button, the casting director will most likely pick another actor. Just being on a set you hear people bashing Bush and the right, because they assume everyone agrees."

Some have suggested the purported anti-conservative tilt in Hollywood is overstated if it exists at all. Perez Hilton, the self-proclaimed "Queen of All Media" and author of his eponymous gossip site, said, "I think Hollywood is very tolerant. They may mock you for your political beliefs, but at least they'll do it to your face!

"It won't ever interfere with people getting a job. Kelsey Grammer still works!"

But some conservatives in the entertainment industry say there may not be a literal blacklist in Hollywood, but there is pressure to keep silent.

"Conservatives don't necessarily have to be covert about their politics, but in many cases they are because the liberals aren't fair and balanced towards those with differing points of view," says Jerry Molen, the Oscar-winning producer of big Hollywood hits like "Schindler's List," "Jurassic Park" and "Rain Man."

"In too many cases, conservatives are immediately labeled racist, homophobic, bigoted, hateful, demonic, or even un-American without the benefit of debate, and are locked out of the hiring process, with a few exceptions."

But the doors may be slowly opening "An American Carol," a conservative parody that lampooned liberal Hollywood this year, galvanized conservative celebrities like Robert Davi, Dennis Hopper, Kevin Farley, Voight and Grammer, all of whom had roles in the film.

And conservative film festivals, including the American Film Renaissance and the Liberty Film Festival, have also helped bring to market conservative projects that a few years ago might have had a difficult time getting made.

Some industry insiders credit John McCain with helping to embolden Hollywood conservatives during this year's presidential election. Andrew Klavan, a conservative author and screenwriter of psychological thrillers including True Crime and Don't Say A Word, said, "For people who had a lot to lose, McCain gave them some cover. He wasn't a true Republican like Bush was. He was someone even the left liked, whereas Bush was demonized. Hollywood conservatives could support McCain without necessarily supporting the GOP."

Klavan suggested that a spate of recent political movies like "Rendition" and "Redaction" also strengthened the conservative cause.

"These movies are genuinely anti-American. Never before have we had anti-war movies made while our troops were at war. Many people like me were ashamed of the industry, and there's been a bit of a backlash."

Vafiades says increasing numbers of conservatives have joined his organization in the past year, and more organizations like his are sprouting up.

But hush-hush groups like "Friends of Abe," a secretive society of Hollywood conservatives, still operate well under the radar. And the increased spotlight on conservative celebrities has not changed the political climate as much as Breitbart, Vafiades, Molen and Klavan would like.

They say liberal celebrities still have an easier time "being political" than conservatives do.

"Sean Penn is out dancing with dictators, and no one gives him flak. Instead they give him Oscar nominations," says Klavan. "Jon Voight may have some semblance of job security, but he still has to be careful about what he says."



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