Psych Lit wrote:

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saluting and singing! heads up! binocs focused on the..er..

Ot yuzhnykh morey do polyarnogo kraya
Raskinulis nashi lesa i polya.
Odna ty na svete! Odna ty takaya

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Woopsee, I mean no disrespect to the Audobon Society or ornithology in general, she was there, with the leather boots, my mind wandered, sue me

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Catch any glimpses of Russia?  

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Thanks, BD! 

Now,see? "Their" bird (IDed as a Green Heron)  
 

 


And "my" bird... fishing, I might add ...

I'm calling it a match. The color is more vibrant in "their" photo, but then again, I'll bet they weren't wandering down an alley, with a camera danging around their neck (no tripod) and a two year old labrador tuggin on the leash in their non-camera hand, either. Plus, when I sent the photo to BD, I "optimized" it for email, 'cause I didn't want to spend six weeks waiting for it to upload, so the photo quality isn't the best, but at least you can see the bird.


BD: >Well lookee here. I just received these in my mailbox! ;) Here ya go. Thought all you wanted is a flashlight, lol.

<insert photo of what the Beatles would have called a "bird">

Woopsee, I mean no disrespect to the Audobon Society or ornithology in general, she was there, with the leather boots, my mind wandered, sue me

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Ya big goof... LOL.

And ty again for posting for me.

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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DamnBirdDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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 you got the bird posted! yay.


Well, not posted ... avatared. Still can't post any photos. Had to change the file type of the bird, and go through a whole lot of rigormoroe to upload it to the avatar space, but yeah, it's there, fwiw.



did you id it yet?

nope. Need to, though. I think it might be a green heron, but I'm awaiting confirmation from Piranhafem. :)

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-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 18:15, 2008-12-16

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WhatBird Wizard 


Good Luck!

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Hey, thanks! :)

I'm pretty sure this is my guy ... finally found a photo of an adult male:

Green Heron

Butorides virescens

Order CICONIIFORMES - Family ARDEIDAE

For complete Life History Information on this species, visit Birds of North America Online.

 

Green Heron, adult

About the photographs

About the map

Play sound from this species

  <--- this is what all the other photos I was finding of it looked like -- apparently, that is a "Green Heron immature"

From the source:

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1. Description
2. Sound
3. Conservation Status
4. Other Names
5. Cool Facts
6. Full detailed species account

A small, stocky wading bird, the Green Heron is common in wet spots across much of North America. It can be difficult to see as it stands motionless waiting for small fish to approach within striking range, but it frequently announces its presence by its loud squawking.

Description

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• Small, dark heron.
• Long yellowish legs.
• Long, dark, pointed bill.
• Long neck often kept pulled in tight to body.
• Legs and neck long, but shorter than most herons.

• Size: 41-46 cm (16-18 in)
• Wingspan: 64-68 cm (25-27 in)
• Weight: 240 g (8.47 ounces)

Sex Differences

Sexes similar, but female slightly smaller, duller, and lighter.

Sound

Flight or alarm call an explosive "skeow." Also make series of "kuk-kuk-kuk-kuk" notes.

»listen to songs of this species

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Conservation Status

Common and widespread. Populations difficult to census accurately, but appear stable.

Other Names

Heron vert (French)
Garcita verde (Spanish)
Green-backed Heron (English)

Cool Facts

• The Green Heron is one of the few tool-using birds. It commonly drops bait onto the surface of the water and grabs the small fish that are attracted. It uses a variety of baits and lures, including crusts of bread, insects, earthworms, twigs, or feathers.
  
  
• The Green Heron is part of a complex of small herons that sometimes are considered one species. When lumped, they are called Green-backed Heron. When split, they are the Green Heron, the widespread Striated Heron, and the Galapagos Heron.
  
  
• As is typical for many herons, the Green Heron tends to wander after the breeding season is over. Most wanderers probably seek more favorable foraging areas and do not travel far. But,occasionally some go farther, with individuals going as far as England and France.
  

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Geez, I wish I could still post photos ... maybe I'll try to talk someone into posting one of the photos I took of this guy fishing. :) I think the one I saw was more handsome than the one above, btw, but that may be personal prejudice. LOL.

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Well lookee here. I just received these in my mailbox! ;) Here ya go. Thought all you wanted is a flashlight, lol.

Woopsee, I mean no disrespect to the Audobon Society or ornithology in general, she was there, with the leather boots, my mind wandered, sue me

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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 you got the bird posted! yay.


Well, not posted ... avatared. Still can't post any photos. Had to change the file type of the bird, and go through a whole lot of rigormoroe to upload it to the avatar space, but yeah, it's there, fwiw.



did you id it yet?

nope. Need to, though. I think it might be a green heron, but I'm awaiting confirmation from Piranhafem. :)

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WhatBird Wizard 


Good Luck!

Psych Lit wrote:

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i am appalled however by people who give past date food items to food drives. if they wont eat it why do they suppose that its ok for others to eat?



This may sound off the wall, but there is a very good chance that some people do NOT realize the food is expired. First of all it requires "spectacles" magnifying glasses, and a decoder at times to find the dates. Secondly, there are more than a few "regular" and discount stores that unknowingly (?) shelve plenty of outdated foods. And always check the Dollar Tree very closely. There are people with good hearts that may set aside a twenty thinking the Dollar Tree will go far for a big bag of food stuff that may well be expired. Also, NEVER pickup anything from them that comes in a pump or spray unless you try it out there. Really. Five cans of Gl*de-China-Cina-mon Room Freshener isn't worth the discount (sic) if the cans don't work. 

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Maybe they're "Sheriff Joe" admirers:

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"...Arpaio began to serve inmates surplus food including outdated and oxidized green bologna^[13] and limited meals to twice daily. Meal costs would be reduced to 90 cents per day; as of 2007 Arpaio states that he has managed to reduce costs to 30 cents per day. Certain food items were banned from the county jail, mainly coffee (which also reduced "coffee attacks" on corrections officers), but later salt and pepper were removed from the jail (at a purported taxpayer savings of $20,000/year)."

coffee attacks? eek. he serves oxidized bologna? i wonder what might happen if someone came down with food poisoning in his custody? id think the county would be held liable?

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Aside from the obvious ... I find it absurd to suggest The Maricopa Country Jail system was spending $20K a year on salt and pepper... I don't know how/why the guy keeps getting re-elected. Every "decent" organization in the world has censured him... but sure enough, he got the "go ahead" nod again in November, along with McCain in this state.

im not surprised. when it comes to the criminal element people dont think their tax dollars should be spent on anything more than the bare minimum. i suppose also that nobody wants to do a second turn with sheriff joe tho i wonder what the recitivism rate is in maricopa county?

the thing is tho that the same people who think this kind of thing is ok would prolly be the first to scream if they somehow ended up in the place and that could happen. i read a statistic awhile back that 1/3 of the people in prison are not guilty of the crime they are in there for. imagine having part of your life stolen and being kept like an animal to boot.

and compassion seems strangely lacking of late. i overheard a conversation yesterday about casey anthony and her parents. the gist of the convo was that the two people discussing it thought that a trial was not necessary that she should be executed without wasting the taxpayers money but the kicker here was that they also felt that her parents should be included in that execution that they are complicit because they chose to believe their kid over the evidence. imo the mother should have a trial and be found innocent or guilty based on the facts and her parents? unless theyve obstructed justice in some way geesh theve lost a beloved grandaughter and a daughter and they will have to live with what their child has done, if it proves to be true. listening to that whole exchange between people left me sad. is this who we are becoming as a society? has the bush years of fry em first try em later philosophy taken root over any principles of justice?

but was one of the most "true" people I've ever met. She was always right there, asking: "Well, what can we do about it?" only when she said it, you knew it meant we were going to "do something about it" but just didn't know what, yet, but we'd better stop everything right then and there, and figure something out, and we almost always did.

i admire people like this who quietly walk the talk. they are rare. i wish there were more like them.

sistertalksalotta has done a lot for women particularly poor women and shes really great at marshalling her resources aka her rolodex and she can talk anyone into anything. lol. i have a weak spot for her and tho i grumble i do allow myself to be talked into whatever her bidding is.

  She passed, not long ago (or maybe it was, and it just doesn't seem as if it was long ago) and there was a beautifully appointed memorial celebration at the Unitarian Church ... people from all walks of life attended ... dignitaries to migrant workers. Just the people assembled there was a fitting, and wondrous testament to her life, IMO.

yes, very much so. when people have such an all around turnout for a memorial it tells me that she touched many lives and did so in a way that people didnt feel beholding or indebtedness to her, simply love.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 13:07, 2008-12-15

 

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My Turn wrote:

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yup, i would agree with that...if you expect/imagine the worst...it will happen...if you expect to fail you will....on the other hand, if you are happy, warm, outgoing..most times good things/people will happen..if you imagine/plan for all good outcomes, the good will come...if you have every confidence to succeed, you will succeed.....

to some extent i do believe this, yanno? at least relationally i do believe this to be the case. thats one area that we have direct control over. ever get stuck with a coworker who gossiped or badmouthed everything and everyone all the livelong day? or who spent most of her workday watching what everybody else was doing and ratting them out because she feels their work ethic is not as strong as hers? or maybe she starts malisious rumors and stirs things up between people by interpreting the world to others through her poisonous world view? every office or workplace seems to have one of these. the sad thing is that when she goes home she shares her tales of woe with her family recounting all of the slights she feels have come from others towards her. of course most people would avoid someone who did these behaviors. they dont want to get caught up in that kind of drama or they think shes a big buzz kill so unless they are cornered by her they avoid her.   her experience with others, their reactions and avoidance of her will make her personal hypothesis on life, that people suck and are out to get her, feel true and, really, that is her lived experience. and the chances are that she will never see her role in what goes on for her. if you sh*it on people, dont be surprised if they sh*t back on you, that kind of thing i do think is within our control.

same with the person who is usually pleasant to be around and plays nicely with others. this person acknowledges others, their personal achivements, their worries, the significant events in their lives. she is encouraging and supportive and people enjoy spending time with a person like that and they respond positively to her. her personal life hypothesis, that people are basically good, also gets reinforced and she prolly goes home and talks about what a great group of people she works with.

having said that, bad things can and do happen to good and positive people too. things that fall beyond our control. the thing that might make the difference is in how someone take up what happens, and what their tolerance level for crud is.

have you read malcolm gladwells "the tipping point?" i think we are all hardwired differently and what effortlessly rolls off one persons back might send another screaming into the night. that kind of hardwiring comes with the human and isnt easily changed and these folks may be a bit more reactive to situations and as a result attract more than their share of crud. but even the most laid back among us has a point of no return, our tipping point, where we give into the negative polarity at least for a bit. but perhaps for those folks who are able to maintain a mostly positive attitude the view is that these are lifes moments, the good and the bad, and that everyone prolly, over the course of a lifetime, gets an equal share of both bad and good moments and so why shouldnt they get their share too? (tho sometimes when we get them all in one dose we hit that tipping point again!)

then too there are those zen moments. that zen story i posted awhile back. how did it go?

i think it was something like a man has a birthday and he gets a horse and everybody says oh how fortunate he is and how the gods are smiling upon him. then he takes the horse out for a ride and falls and breaks his leg and everyone says oh what bad luck that he received that horse for his birthday. but then he discovers that a war has broken out and he cant go and fight in the war because his leg is broken. everyone says oh how lucky you are that you broke your leg. however, because he alone had a unique method of fighting in battles the war is lost and as a result he loses his land. everyone then says oh how unlucky you are that you werent able to fight and that you lost your home. but then he moves into his new home he finds a treasure buried in his new garden and everyone says oh how lucky you are that you had to move...im just making these up because ive forgotten the actual story but you get the idea. todays tragedy is tomorrows triumph and todays tragedy may also be one of the greatest pivotal moments in our lives. only time will tell.

how did the volunteering go?? what did you do???

it went ok. i got to sort clothing and food from their recent holiday food and clothing drive and did a cleaning of the shelves before restocking the new items. i had to sort things into categories. the clothing into the soiled, the torn and repairable and the just plain junk. and the food items into veggie, fruit, entree, drinks while chucking past date items. they keep both clothing and food closets.
i am appalled however by people who give past date food items to food drives. if they wont eat it why do they suppose that its ok for others to eat?
then i was able to spend some time catching up with the nuns over dinner and sister talksalotta, as i so fondly think of her, managed to con me into some other upcoming projects that shes got her mind wrapped around. shes gotta be 90 by now i swear, but she has more energy and things going on than any 10 people i know. i am only pretending to whine tho because i like her and i like the way she does things. she tells you what she wants to do then she asks what you need to get it done and heres the key. She actually listens to what you say. and then she moves heaven and earth to get you what you need to do the task. if only the rest of life were this easy.

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Psych Lit wrote:

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right now ive gotta date with the mercy sisters to do my calling in gay day penance..errr.. volunteer work!

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My Turn wrote:

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ok....here is a quote that was posted to another board i am on....

The game of life is the game of boomerangs. Our thoughts, deeds and words return to us sooner or later, with astounding accuracy.

-- Florence Shinn

off the top of my head what i get from the quote is that whatever you put out there comes back at you. if youre throwing out negative vibes youre gonna get negative vibes back atcha. same with positive vibes. this feels true to me experientially anyway.  have you even noticed how some people seem to attract beams of lightness and joy while others seem to be mired in all sorts of angry events? then too there is the chicken egg thing. which came first yanno? does a bad thing happen which sets off the negative mind frame or does the negative mind frame set off the bad thing? ill think about this some more. right now ive gotta date with the mercy sisters to do my calling in gay day penance..errr.. volunteer work!