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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:


Have you tried something like walgreens.com where you can store your photos for free and share them? 



I hadn't, and went there after reading this. I haven't signed up yet, and the terms apparently aren't shown until you begin that process. I DID see their products for sale (I know a lot of places do that) and thought about maybe making Mom a calendar with pictures of her cats... I got side tracked. smile



-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 11:05, 2008-11-01

yup, thats exactly why i posted the TOS for you.  you had mentioned that you couldnt see it till you signed up for it but i was able to find them and thought i would save you some time since it didnt appear to be the type of photo storage service/site you are looking for.



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The issues which bug me about Walmart are below highlighted in red:




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Have you tried something like walgreens.com where you can store your photos for free and share them? 



I hadn't, and went there after reading this. I haven't signed up yet, and the terms apparently aren't shown until you begin that process. I DID see their products for sale (I know a lot of places do that) and thought about maybe making Mom a calendar with pictures of her cats... I got side tracked. smile



walgreens.com photo sharing service is run by snapfish.com, so the TOS is basically the same.  here is a copy of walgreens photo TOS for ya:

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM membership ("Membership") is available to you if you are at least 13 years of age and submit certain requested information to PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM, including your name and correct email address or if you are a registered user of WALGREENS.COM of at least 13 years of age. In addition, by becoming a Member, you will provide Walgreens with true, accurate, current, and complete information about yourself when such information is requested by the Service (whether by questionnaires, surveys, registration forms, or other informational requests).

The Service is for personal use only.

A benefit of Membership is the ability to store photos in your account. A condition of your storage of photos is your "Active Participation" in the Service. Active Participation is defined as purchasing photo merchandise, including prints, reprints and enlargements, through the Service at least once every 365 days. If your Membership account is inactive for a period of over 365 days, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM may remove and discard any content, including all information, communications, postings, albums, image files or any other content within the Service. Walgreens may terminate your membership for any activity that in the sole opinion of Walgreen Co., its Site Host or subsidiaries constitutes an abuse of your Membership or a violation of these Terms.

PHOTOFINISHING SERVICES

As part of your Membership, you are enabled to have your digital photos uploaded and stored on the Site, pursuant to these Terms, as well as to have print copies or other photo products made either at a Walgreens retail location or delivered to you by mail as requested or appropriate, along with other special offers Walgreens may make to Members from time to time. Costs associated with print copies or photo products, delivered to you by mail, will be charged to your credit card. Orders over a specified value, for store pick-up, will likewise require a credit card.

DIGITAL IMAGE STORAGE

Subject to these Terms, as long as you are an active participant in the Service, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM offers free, unlimited storage, for non-commercial purposes, of your digital photos that you upload to your account.

MEMBER CONDUCT

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM allows Members to store, share and transmit communications, albums, image files, creative material, photographs, links, and comments (collectively "Content"). Users of the Service, whether or not Members, may not use the Service to Process Prohibited Content. Generally, Prohibited Content includes Content or other material that Walgreens believes:

  1. Is abusive, deceptive, pornographic, obscene, defamatory, slanderous, offensive or otherwise inappropriate;
  2. Comprises copyrighted material used without the express permission of the owner;
  3. Violates or encroaches on the rights of others;
  4. Contains viruses, worms, corrupt files, Trojan horses and other forms of corruptive code, or any other content which may compromise the Service;
  5. Advocates illegal activity;
  6. Harms anyone, including minors; or
  7. Provides a link to any of the above.

Walgreens has the sole discretion to determine whether Content is Prohibited Content, and any Content submitted to the Service may be subject to examination from time to time. Although PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens do not and will not examine and review all Content submitted or transmitted to the Service, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens may delete, move, and edit materials for any reason, at any time, without notice.

Any Content discovered on the Site that is deemed in the sole discretion of PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM or Walgreens to be in violation of Title 18 of the United States Code, Sections 2251 et seq. may be reported and disclosed to appropriate law enforcement agencies.

All Content (whether private or public) that is Processed on the Site is the sole responsibility of the person who submitted it. Thus, you are responsible for your Content.

By viewing the Site, you may be exposed to Content that you consider to be offensive. You take sole responsibility for such exposure.

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens in no way guarantee the accuracy, quality or appropriateness of Content available on the Site.

NO RESALE OF SERVICE

You will not (i) reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or exploit any part of the Service, or (ii) use or access the Service for any commercial purpose.

THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE

As a convenience to Members, Walgreen Co. may make third-party software available through the Service. To use the third-party software, you will agree to the terms and conditions imposed by the third party provider. The agreement to use such software will be solely between you and the third party provider. Walgreen Co. does not guarantee that any software downloaded through the Service will be free of viruses, worms, or Trojan horses or other forms of corruptive code. Walgreen Co. makes no representations or warranties concerning, and is not liable or responsible in any manner for, the performance, effectiveness or any other aspect of any third-party software downloaded through the Service.

COPYRIGHT

As a condition to your Membership, you hereby grant Walgreens and the PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM Site Host (presently Hewlett-Packard Co. d/b/a/ Snapfish) a perpetual, universal, non-exclusive, royalty-free right to copy, display, modify, transmit, make derivative works of and distribute your Content, solely for the purpose of providing the Service. As a condition to Membership, you represent and warrant to Walgreens and the Site Host that you either own your Content or have written permission from the copyright owner to make such Content available to the Service.

The Service is protected by U.S. and international copyright laws and by other applicable laws. You may not Process any Content without the written consent of the owner of such Content. You are solely responsible for any copyright violations you may incur as a result of your activities on the Service.

If you believe your work or the work of another has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, Walgreens has a process in place to respond to your concerns. Walgreens will take appropriate steps, at the sole discretion of Walgreens, to protect the intellectual property rights of third parties if it receives notice in accordance with the provisions required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, as follows:

If you believe your copyright or the copyright of another has been infringed on the Service, please provide the Law Department of Walgreen Co. with a written notice containing the following information:

  1. a description and copy of the copyrighted work you claim has been infringed;
  2. a description of where the material you claim is infringing is located on the site;
  3. your address, telephone number, and e-mail address;
  4. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent or the law;
  5. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf; and
  6. the physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright interest on the document(s) comprising 4 and 5 here above and notarized.

The above Notice for claims of infringement for Content on the Service should be addressed to the Law Department at Walgreen Co. at the following street address:

Walgreen Co.
Law Department
MS # 1425
104 Wilmot Rd.
Deerfield, Illinois 60015
Attn: Intellectual Property



-- Edited by My Turn at 02:40, 2008-11-04

Now, sure, I suppose I could drop a fiver once a year for the use of the service, but $5 is $5, and I don't want to throw that away if I don't have to. More importantly, and of concern is the other highlighted part, though. I don't want someone else dictating what is or is not offensive when it comes to my private stuff. If, for instance, I get irritated with Larry Craig, because of his wimpy "I'm NOT GAY!" whining, I want to have the freedom to reply in any way I see fit, including a jaunt to photoshop, without some right-wing "overlord" removing my material. Been there, done that. 

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HelpfulHannah wrote:

Anything you upload can be tagged private or public.



ok, bear with me here tho. im still trying to figger all of this out. if you tag it private does that mean that its totally private or only that others cannot copy it?

 



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MyCat8it wrote:



Have you tried something like walgreens.com where you can store your photos for free and share them? 



I hadn't, and went there after reading this. I haven't signed up yet, and the terms apparently aren't shown until you begin that process. I DID see their products for sale (I know a lot of places do that) and thought about maybe making Mom a calendar with pictures of her cats... I got side tracked. smile



walgreens.com photo sharing service is run by snapfish.com, so the TOS is basically the same.  here is a copy of walgreens photo TOS for ya:

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM membership ("Membership") is available to you if you are at least 13 years of age and submit certain requested information to PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM, including your name and correct email address or if you are a registered user of WALGREENS.COM of at least 13 years of age. In addition, by becoming a Member, you will provide Walgreens with true, accurate, current, and complete information about yourself when such information is requested by the Service (whether by questionnaires, surveys, registration forms, or other informational requests).

The Service is for personal use only.

A benefit of Membership is the ability to store photos in your account. A condition of your storage of photos is your "Active Participation" in the Service. Active Participation is defined as purchasing photo merchandise, including prints, reprints and enlargements, through the Service at least once every 365 days. If your Membership account is inactive for a period of over 365 days, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM may remove and discard any content, including all information, communications, postings, albums, image files or any other content within the Service. Walgreens may terminate your membership for any activity that in the sole opinion of Walgreen Co., its Site Host or subsidiaries constitutes an abuse of your Membership or a violation of these Terms.

PHOTOFINISHING SERVICES

As part of your Membership, you are enabled to have your digital photos uploaded and stored on the Site, pursuant to these Terms, as well as to have print copies or other photo products made either at a Walgreens retail location or delivered to you by mail as requested or appropriate, along with other special offers Walgreens may make to Members from time to time. Costs associated with print copies or photo products, delivered to you by mail, will be charged to your credit card. Orders over a specified value, for store pick-up, will likewise require a credit card.

DIGITAL IMAGE STORAGE

Subject to these Terms, as long as you are an active participant in the Service, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM offers free, unlimited storage, for non-commercial purposes, of your digital photos that you upload to your account.

MEMBER CONDUCT

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM allows Members to store, share and transmit communications, albums, image files, creative material, photographs, links, and comments (collectively "Content"). Users of the Service, whether or not Members, may not use the Service to Process Prohibited Content. Generally, Prohibited Content includes Content or other material that Walgreens believes:

  1. Is abusive, deceptive, pornographic, obscene, defamatory, slanderous, offensive or otherwise inappropriate;
  2. Comprises copyrighted material used without the express permission of the owner;
  3. Violates or encroaches on the rights of others;
  4. Contains viruses, worms, corrupt files, Trojan horses and other forms of corruptive code, or any other content which may compromise the Service;
  5. Advocates illegal activity;
  6. Harms anyone, including minors; or
  7. Provides a link to any of the above.

Walgreens has the sole discretion to determine whether Content is Prohibited Content, and any Content submitted to the Service may be subject to examination from time to time. Although PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens do not and will not examine and review all Content submitted or transmitted to the Service, PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens may delete, move, and edit materials for any reason, at any time, without notice.

Any Content discovered on the Site that is deemed in the sole discretion of PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM or Walgreens to be in violation of Title 18 of the United States Code, Sections 2251 et seq. may be reported and disclosed to appropriate law enforcement agencies.

All Content (whether private or public) that is Processed on the Site is the sole responsibility of the person who submitted it. Thus, you are responsible for your Content.

By viewing the Site, you may be exposed to Content that you consider to be offensive. You take sole responsibility for such exposure.

PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM and Walgreens in no way guarantee the accuracy, quality or appropriateness of Content available on the Site.

NO RESALE OF SERVICE

You will not (i) reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or exploit any part of the Service, or (ii) use or access the Service for any commercial purpose.

THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE

As a convenience to Members, Walgreen Co. may make third-party software available through the Service. To use the third-party software, you will agree to the terms and conditions imposed by the third party provider. The agreement to use such software will be solely between you and the third party provider. Walgreen Co. does not guarantee that any software downloaded through the Service will be free of viruses, worms, or Trojan horses or other forms of corruptive code. Walgreen Co. makes no representations or warranties concerning, and is not liable or responsible in any manner for, the performance, effectiveness or any other aspect of any third-party software downloaded through the Service.

COPYRIGHT

As a condition to your Membership, you hereby grant Walgreens and the PHOTO.WALGREENS.COM Site Host (presently Hewlett-Packard Co. d/b/a/ Snapfish) a perpetual, universal, non-exclusive, royalty-free right to copy, display, modify, transmit, make derivative works of and distribute your Content, solely for the purpose of providing the Service. As a condition to Membership, you represent and warrant to Walgreens and the Site Host that you either own your Content or have written permission from the copyright owner to make such Content available to the Service.

The Service is protected by U.S. and international copyright laws and by other applicable laws. You may not Process any Content without the written consent of the owner of such Content. You are solely responsible for any copyright violations you may incur as a result of your activities on the Service.

If you believe your work or the work of another has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, Walgreens has a process in place to respond to your concerns. Walgreens will take appropriate steps, at the sole discretion of Walgreens, to protect the intellectual property rights of third parties if it receives notice in accordance with the provisions required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, as follows:

If you believe your copyright or the copyright of another has been infringed on the Service, please provide the Law Department of Walgreen Co. with a written notice containing the following information:

  1. a description and copy of the copyrighted work you claim has been infringed;
  2. a description of where the material you claim is infringing is located on the site;
  3. your address, telephone number, and e-mail address;
  4. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent or the law;
  5. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf; and
  6. the physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright interest on the document(s) comprising 4 and 5 here above and notarized.

The above Notice for claims of infringement for Content on the Service should be addressed to the Law Department at Walgreen Co. at the following street address:

Walgreen Co.
Law Department
MS # 1425
104 Wilmot Rd.
Deerfield, Illinois 60015
Attn: Intellectual Property



-- Edited by My Turn at 02:40, 2008-11-04

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Anything you upload can be tagged private or public.

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my resident computer guru suggested tinypic.com....altho i have not read the TOS on the site, he is usually dead on with good sites.....

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Have you tried Flickr.com?







if you use flickr, do your photos become some sort of community property? the few times ive been on that site they show photos on the front page that others have uploaded to the site. some of the photos had some sort of inhibitor to prevent others from using them but others didnt seem to.

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the way I've always done it in the past was to upload to AOL pictures, and then snag the photo from there, but AOL pictures (just like so much OTHER stuff in AOL) is going away at the end of the year,

yeah i got that notice also, tho i havent put photos on aol but ive apparently lost my blog as its been transferred to some other site. funny thing is i dont recall having a blog on aol. lol. go figger.


 so I'm sorta half-way shopping around for another place to stash photos ... any freakin' kind of photo I want, mind you. (I've read the "substitue" photo place, and don't much care for their rules and regs. Seems I couldn't even have a photo of the president or the queen of England stored there unless I've paid royalties, or something, even for my own private use. Anyway ... any online places any of you use that you're especially happy with?

Panasonic DMC-FZ7

ill be curious to see what answers this generates. what ive been doing is storing them on a travel drive and then using the photo shop on the puter to share but clearly i am clueless when it comes to these things and if there is a safe and easy to use storage place offline id love to hear about it.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 11:04, 2008-11-01




 



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Have you tried Flickr.com?



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Can I assume you already checked out Photobucket?  I don't like it, but I know a lot of people use it.

I went there a long time ago, and didn't ... eh, ya know?





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I can't seem to make xdrive work for inserting a picture, but maybe I'm just not trying hard enough.


Yeah, when I try to transfer my photos to the place AOL Pictures recommends, I just keep getting looped, and xdrive shows up in that loop briefly (just the name) but the stupid page just keeps taking me back to its self. I also click the "help" box on AOL Pictures (on the same page) and got "Oops! This page not found." Sorta sums it up, doesn't it?


Have you tried something like walgreens.com where you can store your photos for free and share them? 




I hadn't, and went there after reading this. I haven't signed up yet, and the terms apparently aren't shown until you begin that process. I DID see their products for sale (I know a lot of places do that) and thought about maybe making Mom a calendar with pictures of her cats... I got side tracked. smile

With my dial up connection I can't do the Sparklit "load picture" thing. It goes into that spinning "progress dial" and stays there. After about twenty minutes of that nonsense, I click out, but of course lose whatever I'd written. I realize the dial up is a big part of my problem, and I'll probably change that sometime in the near future, but I'm just not ready to do that just yet, with things in my home changing, including phones and stuff. I need to make some (shared) decisions about how this house is going to be wired, for TV, phone, and internet, and then make the move, and .... oy. I think it's easier to buy a car than that whole thing. So many tangents, you know?


I just want a safe, PRIVATE online place where I don't have to follow any "rules" about things like whether or not I took the photo myself, or some AP reporter did, where I can slam a photo, and then drag from there to ... well? Here, for instance, like I did with AOL. I don't want the Feds pounding at my door if I have in there a picture of Homer Simpson, and I want to be able to allow people I invite to be able to view certain abums, but not the whole freakin' world, and I want to be able to have more than one album.

That's what I WANT. What I'll get, remains, of course, to be seen.

Thanks for the tips, though -- appreciate it. I'll keep lookin, and check out Photobucket again.




-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 11:05, 2008-11-01

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Can I assume you already checked out Photobucket?  I don't like it, but I know a lot of people use it.

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I can't seem to make xdrive work for inserting a picture, but maybe I'm just not trying hard enough.

Have you tried something like walgreens.com where you can store your photos for free and share them? 

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OK, I really started this thread in hopes of coaxing BD to tell us about her new camera giggle.gif BUT! While I'm here ...

Anyone have any favorite "photobucket" kinds of places they use that they're really happy with? Here's my deal: In order to post photos from my camera's SC card on these boards, with my DIAL UP connection, the way I've always done it in the past was to upload to AOL pictures, and then snag the photo from there, but AOL pictures (just like so much OTHER stuff in AOL) is going away at the end of the year, so I'm sorta half-way shopping around for another place to stash photos ... any freakin' kind of photo I want, mind you. (I've read the "substitue" photo place, and don't much care for their rules and regs. Seems I couldn't even have a photo of the president or the queen of England stored there unless I've paid royalties, or something, even for my own private use. Anyway ... any online places any of you use that you're especially happy with? 

Panasonic DMC-FZ7 

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 11:04, 2008-11-01

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