Yeah, but see, in "Extremities" the woman doesn't just stop something from happening -- she captures the rapist, shackles, and tortures him. Actually, a technical "rape" never occurs -- it's attempted rape, and that's the problem, in that she has no faith in the justice system, and believes it will just let him out to attack her again. I think at one point she's trying to get him to confess, but then it slips into a realm beyond that. Cheney et al. would call it "enhanced interrogation."
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-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Sunday 17th of May 2009 08:40:28 PM
See, that's a tough one. At least for me not having been in the position of the women in these extreme cases. I can promise you this, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to intervene in a physical fashion if someone were physically and emotionally battering someone, anyone. Regular old everyday women walk among us with useless pieces of paper that are passed out willy nilly as if that POP will defend them from their abusers. Some of these women are murdered, or "disappear" every single day.
and that was part of the discussion that happened as a result of the highlighting surrounding both of the films that she did around that time. spousal rape was legal, battering was considered a family matter, sexual assault cases back then were very different as was stalking which i think was also a part of this. stalking laws are really recent. back then they had to do something to you before any action could happen, womens sexual histories were a part of the court records and rapists got off with a slap if they were even sucessfully prosecuted which was rare since what you were wearing and whether you were a virgin played a big part in whether a conviction occurred.
i remember her most from her work on domestic violence projects and her choice to do the burning bed at a time when women were being jailed for defending themselves against abuse. there was a lot of controversy surrounding that (prolly still is) but i do think the choice to open that conversation to show both sides of the issue was an important one in the fight against dv.
Decades ago, I was asked to play the same role she had in "Extremities."
I read the play twice, maybe three times, studied it a LOT, and ultimately turned down the role.
While it certainly would have been a dramatic challenge, and I've played villain a plenty, I just ... didn't like the message, when it came right down to it. Still don't. For me, anyway, it crossed a line which shouldn't be crossed, and seemed to suggest that was okay to go from protection, to equal footing to brutal and violent vengeance.
I'd still make the same choice, if I had it to do over.
i didnt see or read the play but i think i saw the movie. if its the one im thinking of there were several women in the flim and each presented a pov about how to handle the situation based on her own understanding of what happens to women and how the system treats rapists or would be rapists. i remember it generating a lot of discussion about how much is too much given certain circumstances. i think most of us would call the police as soon as the situation was under control if only out of fear that hed get loose again and finish the job. in terms of meaty roles tho, dang that would have been a good one even with the violent aspects. i love theatre and theater that gets people arguing over the cappuchino afterward.
i remember her most from her work on domestic violence projects and her choice to do the burning bed at a time when women were being jailed for defending themselves against abuse. there was a lot of controversy surrounding that (prolly still is) but i do think the choice to open that conversation to show both sides of the issue was an important one in the fight against dv.
Decades ago, I was asked to play the same role she had in "Extremities."
I read the play twice, maybe three times, studied it a LOT, and ultimately turned down the role.
While it certainly would have been a dramatic challenge, and I've played villain a plenty, I just ... didn't like the message, when it came right down to it. Still don't. For me, anyway, it crossed a line which shouldn't be crossed, and seemed to suggest that was okay to go from protection, to equal footing to brutal and violent vengeance.
I'd still make the same choice, if I had it to do over.
See, that's a tough one. At least for me not having been in the position of the women in these extreme cases. I can promise you this, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to intervene in a physical fashion if someone were physically and emotionally battering someone, anyone. Regular old everyday women walk among us with useless pieces of paper that are passed out willy nilly as if that POP will defend them from their abusers. Some of these women are murdered, or "disappear" every single day.
I would not hesitate for a moment to physically intervene. I don't pick physical fights but I firmly believe that an equal playing field is one that has the players armed with equal weapons. Whatever that may metophorically refer to. Capiche? I gotcher back, like it or not.
Crap,
Terri, I signed off.
Yeah, but see, in "Extremities" the woman doesn't just stop something from happening -- she captures the rapist, shackles, and tortures him. Actually, a technical "rape" never occurs -- it's attempted rape, and that's the problem, in that she has no faith in the justice system, and believes it will just let him out to attack her again. I think at one point she's trying to get him to confess, but then it slips into a realm beyond that. Cheney et al. would call it "enhanced interrogation."
-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Sunday 17th of May 2009 08:40:28 PM
i remember her most from her work on domestic violence projects and her choice to do the burning bed at a time when women were being jailed for defending themselves against abuse. there was a lot of controversy surrounding that (prolly still is) but i do think the choice to open that conversation to show both sides of the issue was an important one in the fight against dv.
Decades ago, I was asked to play the same role she had in "Extremities."
I read the play twice, maybe three times, studied it a LOT, and ultimately turned down the role.
While it certainly would have been a dramatic challenge, and I've played villain a plenty, I just ... didn't like the message, when it came right down to it. Still don't. For me, anyway, it crossed a line which shouldn't be crossed, and seemed to suggest that was okay to go from protection, to equal footing to brutal and violent vengeance.
I'd still make the same choice, if I had it to do over.
See, that's a tough one. At least for me not having been in the position of the women in these extreme cases. I can promise you this, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to intervene in a physical fashion if someone were physically and emotionally battering someone, anyone. Regular old everyday women walk among us with useless pieces of paper that are passed out willy nilly as if that POP will defend them from their abusers. Some of these women are murdered, or "disappear" every single day.
I would not hesitate for a moment to physically intervene. I don't pick physical fights but I firmly believe that an equal playing field is one that has the players armed with equal weapons. Whatever that may metophorically refer to. Capiche? I gotcher back, like it or not.
i remember her most from her work on domestic violence projects and her choice to do the burning bed at a time when women were being jailed for defending themselves against abuse. there was a lot of controversy surrounding that (prolly still is) but i do think the choice to open that conversation to show both sides of the issue was an important one in the fight against dv.
Decades ago, I was asked to play the same role she had in "Extremities."
I read the play twice, maybe three times, studied it a LOT, and ultimately turned down the role.
While it certainly would have been a dramatic challenge, and I've played villain a plenty, I just ... didn't like the message, when it came right down to it. Still don't. For me, anyway, it crossed a line which shouldn't be crossed, and seemed to suggest that was okay to go from protection, to equal footing to brutal and violent vengeance.
I'd still make the same choice, if I had it to do over.
farrah's story? I caught it in segments on msnbc.com. The story captures her fight with cancer and the lost of privacy that went along with it.
i didnt watch. i couldnt. my niece is dying from the same cancer and watching that would have reinforced a lot of the stress im feeling dealing with that. i do think shes remarkably brave to have allowed that.
I'm kinda glad I watched it .. it gave me a new perspective about her. Things like, I never knew she was an artist .... really, I never knew anything much about her at all ..
turns out there's more to her than just that big hair persona.
i remember her most from her work on domestic violence projects and her choice to do the burning bed at a time when women were being jailed for defending themselves against abuse. there was a lot of controversy surrounding that (prolly still is) but i do think the choice to open that conversation to show both sides of the issue was an important one in the fight against dv.
farrah's story? I caught it in segments on msnbc.com. The story captures her fight with cancer and the lost of privacy that went along with it.
I'm kinda glad I watched it .. it gave me a new perspective about her. Things like, I never knew she was an artist .... really, I never knew anything much about her at all ..
turns out there's more to her than just that big hair persona.
