I don't agree, Nesea. Well, I do agree we don't need a hall monitor, and I don't think any of us would ask any other of us to be that.
The thing with which I object, though, speaking, of course, only for myself, is (and I'm not certain I'm going to be able to articulate it well) ... well, you're a registered member here, so this is your space as much as it is anyone else's. It would be my hope that we'd all feel comfortable speaking up if something's said which bothers us, and that we would, and that THAT might lead to some important discussions.
I don't think where one is should influence their ability to speak freely when they feel strongly about something pertaining to them. At least not on message boards.
I do it a lot. Get in a lot of hot water for it, too, sometimes, but I still do. :)
Just as a little personal footnote... having posted alongside Psych for a decade or so now, I can attest to the fact that if something she said hurt them, she'd be surprised about it, and that it would not have been her intention. I've seen her "clipped" and perhaps less than gregarious after being vilely attacked, but not intentionally hurtful. Historically, Psych has ALWAYS played the role of peacemaker in other venues where she and I have both posted. Just ... fwiw. Maybe the best way to get rid of eggshells is to just stomp them into minute bits of nothingnesss, sweep it away, and stand squarely on the clean floor and speak one's mind. I dunno ... I just don't see hurt or angry feelings being resolved by silence, or any way to change behavior if one doesn't recognize they're saying something offensive.
I don't know that instructing any of us (you included) on how to speak would fly particularly well here ... which is one of the things I so enjoy about this particular group of women. We're all pretty independent, and, I think, strong, but not bullheaded or intentionally hurtful.
But what I most wanted to address was the square peg/round hole thing. I'm sorry you feel that way. I certainly don't feel that way about you at ALL.
JMO.
Owl,
Thanks. The things you wrote are both considerate and fair. As far as Psych not intending harm ... I realized that and told her as much myself, with an apology attached.
i have no problem with how i id .. matter of fact I announced my bi-ness as soon as I came to this board .. no problem, no secret. (btw ... as far as bi girls not id'ing as butch .. i think my girl Pink can come off pretty butch at times. just sayin .....) not to mention, I lean towards butch myself.
As far as the labels as qualifiers i simply meant that naming the aversion therapy as BISEXUAL created a negative overtone. And if you replaced it with say .. AFRICAN AMERICAN aversion therapy or MUSLIM aversion therapy ... well, you get what i'm saying ...
anyways ... labels (most of the time) in and of themselves are neither good or evil, it's how we wield them that sometimes shades their reception. In this case i felt like the brunt of a less than friendly joke, because Bi was followed by the word "aversion".
I admit I might of read it wrong ... but can you see how I got to where I was?
so, enough with this already .... let's move on to the fresher, more tasty, tidbits to gnaw on.
-- Edited by nesea on Monday 18th of May 2009 02:31:03 PM
Historically there have been gay men that are contemptuous in their interaction with lesbians, that they will largely and often affrontively refer to all of us as "dykes". However, gay men have forever collected straight women as trophies, casually known as "fag hags". Funnily about that particular post was the men seemed not to see their own unique distinctions in their sexual preferences, they too have b/f roles, leather guys, cage dancers, the hairy overall guys and on and on. That's what struck me funny.
i wondered about this too and was going to ask that as well. my assumption was that there was some b/f interaction going on there too but that might be my misperception?
"Bears", that's the label I was searching for. I tell ya I was tired. ;)
tyvm. It was a great weekend. I hope you enjoyed your weekend to, birthday or not!
you and your birthday girlie. i want you to know im holding you personally responsible for the 3 lbs i prolly gained overnight when i couldnt get those freaking cannolis out of my head and actually baked chocolate, chocolate chip cookies at 230 in the morning:)
There's alot of conversation going on in these little boxes. I hope the conversation, as it were, resumes. I have some things I would like to chew, nibble, gnaw on with each of you. Hopefully another time, soon. I'm in need of aloe and sleep. I look like a fried red tomato. It was a very sunny day.
sunny....
sunny would be nice. im gonna need a machete to mow the lawn this week...
Thanks for the nod, again. Sadly, the greatest gift we, who are outside of the maintstream constitution?, could give the haters is further in-fighting or discourse. As for labels though, I feel strongly that if we don't embrace them, we can't understand and own, or take them back.
Real quick, psych made mention of a link sent her by a gay male of a question posed by a straight female.
he unfollowed me. lol. he musta read what i wrote and disappeared me.
Historically there have been gay men that are contemptuous in their interaction with lesbians, that they will largely and often affrontively refer to all of us as "dykes". However, gay men have forever collected straight women as trophies, casually known as "fag hags". Funnily about that particular post was the men seemed not to see their own unique distinctions in their sexual preferences, they too have b/f roles, leather guys, cage dancers, the hairy overall guys and on and on. That's what struck me funny.
i wondered about this too and was going to ask that as well. my assumption was that there was some b/f interaction going on there too but that might be my misperception?
We're a very confused world. All trying to figure it out the best we can. For some it's balls to the walls and for some it's life in their closet surrounded by satin covered hangers. And all the rest that are in between the two.
I spent some time pondering this ... and I was darn near about to attempt answering the questions you'd asked ... When it occurred to me that my issues stem from the square peg in a round hole thing ....meaning, I know I'm different and don't quite fit here (since I id as bi)
we are all square pegs in round holes depending upon the issues discussed and thats prolly a good thing. life would be far less interesting if everyone was always in agreement.
And since I'm in YOUR (your being lesbian) space here, I have no business trying to convince any of you to speak any differently than you normally would. im rather hard to convince if i think someone is wrong but easy if i think they are right. and id say the same is prolly true of every one else who posts here so speaking your heart only allows you to speak as you normally would and allows others to make what they will of that and the reverse is also true and thats an ok thing too, yes?
So no ... I won't put out any gentle nudges or reminders ... there should be no eggshell dance.
This space doesn't need a hall monitor ......
well no it doesnt but i was thinking less hall monitor and more normal human reminders. i think we all come to the party with varying thresholds for varying things. nothing wrong with that but in the day to day give and take in the world that difference in how we take things up can sometimes lead to hurt feelings or misunderstandings. imo its ok to say that to others or to check meanings with others like in, did you mean to say ---? and have that be a normal part of discussions. i think, and mebbe im an optimist, that that differences can be brought up without falling into pejorative space. i really do believe that those are golden opportunities to open peoples minds to consider new ideas with the added benefit that it resolves conflicts before they turn into big nuke events. this is just my opinion of course which youre free to discard if ya like.
tyvm. It was a great weekend. I hope you enjoyed your weekend to, birthday or not!
There's alot of conversation going on in these little boxes. I hope the conversation, as it were, resumes. I have some things I would like to chew, nibble, gnaw on with each of you. Hopefully another time, soon. I'm in need of aloe and sleep. I look like a fried red tomato. It was a very sunny day.
sunny....
Thanks for the nod, again. Sadly, the greatest gift we, who are outside of the maintstream constitution?, could give the haters is further in-fighting or discourse. As for labels though, I feel strongly that if we don't embrace them, we can't understand and own, or take them back.
Real quick, psych made mention of a link sent her by a gay male of a question posed by a straight female. Historically there have been gay men that are contemptuous in their interaction with lesbians, that they will largely and often affrontively refer to all of us as "dykes". However, gay men have forever collected straight women as trophies, casually known as "fag hags". Funnily about that particular post was the men seemed not to see their own unique distinctions in their sexual preferences, they too have b/f roles, leather guys, cage dancers, the hairy overall guys and on and on. That's what struck me funny. We're a very confused world. All trying to figure it out the best we can. For some it's balls to the walls and for some it's life in their closet surrounded by satin covered hangers. And all the rest that are in between the two.
Does this mean I have to ID as "balls to the walls"?
tyvm. It was a great weekend. I hope you enjoyed your weekend to, birthday or not!
There's alot of conversation going on in these little boxes. I hope the conversation, as it were, resumes. I have some things I would like to chew, nibble, gnaw on with each of you. Hopefully another time, soon. I'm in need of aloe and sleep. I look like a fried red tomato. It was a very sunny day.
sunny....
Thanks for the nod, again. Sadly, the greatest gift we, who are outside of the maintstream constitution?, could give the haters is further in-fighting or discourse. As for labels though, I feel strongly that if we don't embrace them, we can't understand and own, or take them back.
Real quick, psych made mention of a link sent her by a gay male of a question posed by a straight female. Historically there have been gay men that are contemptuous in their interaction with lesbians, that they will largely and often affrontively refer to all of us as "dykes". However, gay men have forever collected straight women as trophies, casually known as "fag hags". Funnily about that particular post was the men seemed not to see their own unique distinctions in their sexual preferences, they too have b/f roles, leather guys, cage dancers, the hairy overall guys and on and on. That's what struck me funny. We're a very confused world. All trying to figure it out the best we can. For some it's balls to the walls and for some it's life in their closet surrounded by satin covered hangers. And all the rest that are in between the two.
pot shots aside ........ when a labels are used as qualifiers, odds are there's going to be an emotional response.
If I misread, I apologize ...
point taken. it does bring up a question for me and i hope that it will be ok to take this up. how do we discuss those things that may feel like misperceptions of our lives? or things that happen repeatedly where they dont make sense without adding in the qualifies? honestly i do get what youre saying tho. i mentioned the discussion id come upon on a gay board having to do with lesbians who love butches and the thought expressed on that board that it was a mystery to them because if they wanted men why didnt they go with men. while i personally dont get that thinking since the difference is very apparent to me im liking that the question got asked. it presents a teaching opportunity theres a line between walking on eggshells and being an insensitive jerk and i usually try to aim for the middle ground. ill give this warning tho. im exposed all the live long day to the verbal expressions of peoples ideas many of which fall into the un pc category and sometimes scary category and because of this i think i tend to be a bit thick skinned about how people say what they say so if i err im gonna count on you to give me a gentle reminder that im heading towards the insensitive jerk end of things and when im feeling the eggshell dance ill raise up that flag .
I spent some time pondering this ... and I was darn near about to attempt answering the questions you'd asked ... When it occurred to me that my issues stem from the square peg in a round hole thing ....meaning, I know I'm different and don't quite fit here (since I id as bi)
And since I'm in YOUR (your being lesbian) space here, I have no business trying to convince any of you to speak any differently than you normally would.
So no ... I won't put out any gentle nudges or reminders ... there should be no eggshell dance.
This space doesn't need a hall monitor ......
May I join this discussion?
I don't agree, Nesea. Well, I do agree we don't need a hall monitor, and I don't think any of us would ask any other of us to be that.
The thing with which I object, though, speaking, of course, only for myself, is (and I'm not certain I'm going to be able to articulate it well) ... well, you're a registered member here, so this is your space as much as it is anyone else's. It would be my hope that we'd all feel comfortable speaking up if something's said which bothers us, and that we would, and that THAT might lead to some important discussions.
I don't think where one is should influence their ability to speak freely when they feel strongly about something pertaining to them. At least not on message boards.
I do it a lot. Get in a lot of hot water for it, too, sometimes, but I still do. :)
Just as a little personal footnote... having posted alongside Psych for a decade or so now, I can attest to the fact that if something she said hurt them, she'd be surprised about it, and that it would not have been her intention. I've seen her "clipped" and perhaps less than gregarious after being vilely attacked, but not intentionally hurtful. Historically, Psych has ALWAYS played the role of peacemaker in other venues where she and I have both posted. Just ... fwiw. Maybe the best way to get rid of eggshells is to just stomp them into minute bits of nothingnesss, sweep it away, and stand squarely on the clean floor and speak one's mind. I dunno ... I just don't see hurt or angry feelings being resolved by silence, or any way to change behavior if one doesn't recognize they're saying something offensive.
I don't know that instructing any of us (you included) on how to speak would fly particularly well here ... which is one of the things I so enjoy about this particular group of women. We're all pretty independent, and, I think, strong, but not bullheaded or intentionally hurtful.
But what I most wanted to address was the square peg/round hole thing. I'm sorry you feel that way. I certainly don't feel that way about you at ALL.
pot shots aside ........ when a labels are used as qualifiers, odds are there's going to be an emotional response.
If I misread, I apologize ...
point taken. it does bring up a question for me and i hope that it will be ok to take this up. how do we discuss those things that may feel like misperceptions of our lives? or things that happen repeatedly where they dont make sense without adding in the qualifies? honestly i do get what youre saying tho. i mentioned the discussion id come upon on a gay board having to do with lesbians who love butches and the thought expressed on that board that it was a mystery to them because if they wanted men why didnt they go with men. while i personally dont get that thinking since the difference is very apparent to me im liking that the question got asked. it presents a teaching opportunity theres a line between walking on eggshells and being an insensitive jerk and i usually try to aim for the middle ground. ill give this warning tho. im exposed all the live long day to the verbal expressions of peoples ideas many of which fall into the un pc category and sometimes scary category and because of this i think i tend to be a bit thick skinned about how people say what they say so if i err im gonna count on you to give me a gentle reminder that im heading towards the insensitive jerk end of things and when im feeling the eggshell dance ill raise up that flag .
I spent some time pondering this ... and I was darn near about to attempt answering the questions you'd asked ... When it occurred to me that my issues stem from the square peg in a round hole thing ....meaning, I know I'm different and don't quite fit here (since I id as bi)
And since I'm in YOUR (your being lesbian) space here, I have no business trying to convince any of you to speak any differently than you normally would.
So no ... I won't put out any gentle nudges or reminders ... there should be no eggshell dance.
pot shots aside ........ when a labels are used as qualifiers, odds are there's going to be an emotional response.
If I misread, I apologize ...
point taken. it does bring up a question for me and i hope that it will be ok to take this up. how do we discuss those things that may feel like misperceptions of our lives? or things that happen repeatedly where they dont make sense without adding in the qualifies? honestly i do get what youre saying tho. i mentioned the discussion id come upon on a gay board having to do with lesbians who love butches and the thought expressed on that board that it was a mystery to them because if they wanted men why didnt they go with men. while i personally dont get that thinking since the difference is very apparent to me im liking that the question got asked. it presents a teaching opportunity theres a line between walking on eggshells and being an insensitive jerk and i usually try to aim for the middle ground. ill give this warning tho. im exposed all the live long day to the verbal expressions of peoples ideas many of which fall into the un pc category and sometimes scary category and because of this i think i tend to be a bit thick skinned about how people say what they say so if i err im gonna count on you to give me a gentle reminder that im heading towards the insensitive jerk end of things and when im feeling the eggshell dance ill raise up that flag .
Oh yeah, I guess it was you after all. I assumed it was me. So, I'm only guilty of adding photos and cannoli cravings to the drift. btw, remember the old ad "I can't believe I ate the whole thing"? Ayep.
Terri
im still having the cannoli cravings thank yew veddy much. lol. thats ok. i pigged out on peppermint patties smuggled into the movies and im contemplating making cookies before i go to bed. why? who the hell knows. its the craving for goodies that SOMEBODY put in my head today:)
I don't know how that drift happened, but please forgive me and return to the regularly scheduled programming discussion. ;)
Hey -- I saw an opening and took it. So shoot me. LOL
Oh yeah, I guess it was you after all. I assumed it was me. So, I'm only guilty of adding photos and cannoli cravings to the drift. btw, remember the old ad "I can't believe I ate the whole thing"? Ayep.
omg are those choc cannolis? (sp) id roll ya for the cannolis AND the crocs. those are nice and rather stylish for crocs. it seems a good party happened sugar overload or not and i hope you took some of those desserts home in a doggy bag dang it now im gonna have to go to town and get me a cannoli
Okay, I'll take the truffles, and the thing that looks like a cousin to baklava. With coffee, please.
I have a sugar hangovah you wouldn't beeeeeeelieve. And a new "field hockey" outfit. And yes, I will wear those crocs with that jersey. I just hope I don't get "rolled" for the jersey. And I'm pretty sure the shoes are safe from "rollers".
omg are those choc cannolis? (sp) id roll ya for the cannolis AND the crocs. those are nice and rather stylish for crocs. it seems a good party happened sugar overload or not and i hope you took some of those desserts home in a doggy bag dang it now im gonna have to go to town and get me a cannoli
I have a sugar hangovah you wouldn't beeeeeeelieve. And a new "field hockey" outfit. And yes, I will wear those crocs with that jersey. I just hope I don't get "rolled" for the jersey. And I'm pretty sure the shoes are safe from "rollers".
LOLOL ... funny stuff. Maybe it could be expanded to feature some of those wacky transgender types too and be hosted by lesbians .. or better yet, gays ... cause nothing says "entertainment" like the disenfranchised showcasing outcasts.
truly .. it's lucky for us we have educated peeps coming up with these ideas cause ya know it's a fine line between ingenious creativity and outright ugly.
yep ... lucky for us.
peace. out.
hmm. sorry if that seemed offensive. my comment was not a general comment on bisexuals but was more directed to the poster anon. i dont know who anon is for certain because anon is anon and we sometimes have several anons but from the comments anon made in her last two posts id assumed there was some healing going on having to do with a complicated relationship with someone of the bisexual pursuasion and was speaking about a reality show surrounding the problems of complicated relationships with bisexuals and not wanting to "go there" again hence the aversion therapy remark not as an aversion to bisexuals in general but aversion to "complicated relationships" with bisexuals which is something that has apparently caused some stress for anon. had she said she was looking for a reality show to prevent her from getting into complicated relationships with lesbians my response would have been the same or het people or chinese acrobats or whatever.
that said there may be room for discussion here about this. ive never dated someone who id as bi and thats not because of the bi aspect but more that i tend toward attraction to those of the butch pursuasion and have yet to meet a butch who id as bi. im sure there prolly are some who do but ive not met them. anyhow, for lesbians who do date (for lack of a better word) people who id as bi (not a homogeneous category by any means) there are occasionally issues that pop up whether its wanting to go back into a het relationship or not wanting to leave het priviledge behind or who knows? lots of issues. those who are bi might have issues with women who id as lesbian (also not a homogeneous group) and particular problems that result from dating those who do id as lesbian.
im thinking its prolly good to talk about the general difference in experience (without of course taking pot shots at others) yesterday i got a twitter link from an apparently gay male message board and it linked to a question about why lesbians would want to be with butches and the question was apparently asked by a str8 woman. i read thru the responses and was going to add my own but i have to wait for some email code so i can post. but after i responded to that question, which seemed to me to be confusion that happens from the outside in,i was going to ask the boys a question of my own that id always wondered about and that is why is there so much misogyny among the boys with respect to lesbians. im still of the opinion that the only dumb questions are the ones that go unanswered and that they only way to get beyond any sort of bigotry is to open those things up for discussion among rather than having those conversations with like minded people which can reinforce rather than change ideas.
You picked up on the "Magnet" part. That's the central focus of the entire one liner. There was nothing whatsoever offensive about it. Some may choose to misread, misunderstand or just poorly receive it for whatever reason, but the obvious subject in that one liner is the "magnet" not bisexuals.
LOLOL ... funny stuff. Maybe it could be expanded to feature some of those wacky transgender types too and be hosted by lesbians .. or better yet, gays ... cause nothing says "entertainment" like the disenfranchised showcasing outcasts.
truly .. it's lucky for us we have educated peeps coming up with these ideas cause ya know it's a fine line between ingenious creativity and outright ugly.
yep ... lucky for us.
peace. out.
hmm. sorry if that seemed offensive. my comment was not a general comment on bisexuals but was more directed to the poster anon. i dont know who anon is for certain because anon is anon and we sometimes have several anons but from the comments anon made in her last two posts id assumed there was some healing going on having to do with a complicated relationship with someone of the bisexual pursuasion and was speaking about a reality show surrounding the problems of complicated relationships with bisexuals and not wanting to "go there" again hence the aversion therapy remark not as an aversion to bisexuals in general but aversion to "complicated relationships" with bisexuals which is something that has apparently caused some stress for anon. had she said she was looking for a reality show to prevent her from getting into complicated relationships with lesbians my response would have been the same or het people or chinese acrobats or whatever.
that said there may be room for discussion here about this. ive never dated someone who id as bi and thats not because of the bi aspect but more that i tend toward attraction to those of the butch pursuasion and have yet to meet a butch who id as bi. im sure there prolly are some who do but ive not met them. anyhow, for lesbians who do date (for lack of a better word) people who id as bi (not a homogeneous category by any means) there are occasionally issues that pop up whether its wanting to go back into a het relationship or not wanting to leave het priviledge behind or who knows? lots of issues. those who are bi might have issues with women who id as lesbian (also not a homogeneous group) and particular problems that result from dating those who do id as lesbian.
im thinking its prolly good to talk about the general difference in experience (without of course taking pot shots at others) yesterday i got a twitter link from an apparently gay male message board and it linked to a question about why lesbians would want to be with butches and the question was apparently asked by a str8 woman. i read thru the responses and was going to add my own but i have to wait for some email code so i can post. but after i responded to that question, which seemed to me to be confusion that happens from the outside in,i was going to ask the boys a question of my own that id always wondered about and that is why is there so much misogyny among the boys with respect to lesbians. im still of the opinion that the only dumb questions are the ones that go unanswered and that they only way to get beyond any sort of bigotry is to open those things up for discussion among rather than having those conversations with like minded people which can reinforce rather than change ideas.
So, I won't be starring in the premier this fall, produced by you, called "Are You Smarter Than A Bi-Sexual Magnet?"
lol thats prolly already been done on some channel or other. mebbe we can construct the complicated bisexual attachments aversion therapies show and model it after that show where they had to eat squirmy or crunchy living things to get to the next round:)
LOLOL ... funny stuff. Maybe it could be expanded to feature some of those wacky transgender types too and be hosted by lesbians .. or better yet, gays ... cause nothing says "entertainment" like the disenfranchised showcasing outcasts.
truly .. it's lucky for us we have educated peeps coming up with these ideas cause ya know it's a fine line between ingenious creativity and outright ugly.
yep ... lucky for us.
peace. out.
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So, I won't be starring in the premier this fall, produced by you, called "Are You Smarter Than A Bi-Sexual Magnet?"
lol thats prolly already been done on some channel or other. mebbe we can construct the complicated bisexual attachments aversion therapies show and model it after that show where they had to eat squirmy or crunchy living things to get to the next round:)
as has been the case in recent years there are loads of new reality shows most of which bite but there are exceptions and one that i am really looking forward to watching is one tentatively called breakthrough. the idea is that individuals who are looking to make serious changes in their lives or looking to overcome serious obstacles are helped by tony robbins to make those changes. i know hes the middle of the night insomniac guru but i think hes very effective in what he does and this may turn out to be tv that actually has some worth. oh and btw they are casting as we speak so if anyone has any issues they wanna work on or goals they wish to accomplish this might be a very groovy way to get that done.
Yeah, sign me up! I'm pretty eager to have my issues (both real, and imagined) be broadcast and published by more than just the usual suspects.
lol. well not the dramatic mtv reality kind of show with "those" kinds of issues. im with you on that. this may be different tho. im hoping that they stick to the plan and this show is about people who either have had some very difficult challenges like the death of a child or partner and cant move on in life or people who wish to accomplish something and feel stuck in getting there. those what would you do with your life if there were nothing standing in your way kinds of things. im thinking these kinds of things could be generally useful especially in a cultural environment where we are all on stress overload. these days sweeping the floor can feel overwhelming for many.
while i do hate those shows that are exploitive of peoples weaknesses or illnesses and take them to the oh lets tune in and watch the wackos so we can all feel better about our own lives jerry springer tv thing, there are some that i applaud. for instance i was hooked on the biggest loser this year. i watched it on the net without commercial interruption! i think those people are extremely courageous for their willingness to put everything on the line to take back their life. if i have any uh moment with that show its the speed with which they get the weight off of the participants. i hope that they stick with it and make the lifelong changes and not fall back into the behaviors that got them into trouble in the first place. this show will be produced by the same group so im hoping that they will also showcase people who are fed up with what is and wish to make lasting changes to bring their life to the place they wish it to be.
So, I won't be starring in the premier this fall, produced by you, called "Are You Smarter Than A Bi-Sexual Magnet?"
as has been the case in recent years there are loads of new reality shows most of which bite but there are exceptions and one that i am really looking forward to watching is one tentatively called breakthrough. the idea is that individuals who are looking to make serious changes in their lives or looking to overcome serious obstacles are helped by tony robbins to make those changes. i know hes the middle of the night insomniac guru but i think hes very effective in what he does and this may turn out to be tv that actually has some worth. oh and btw they are casting as we speak so if anyone has any issues they wanna work on or goals they wish to accomplish this might be a very groovy way to get that done.
Yeah, sign me up! I'm pretty eager to have my issues (both real, and imagined) be broadcast and published by more than just the usual suspects.
lol. well not the dramatic mtv reality kind of show with "those" kinds of issues. im with you on that. this may be different tho. im hoping that they stick to the plan and this show is about people who either have had some very difficult challenges like the death of a child or partner and cant move on in life or people who wish to accomplish something and feel stuck in getting there. those what would you do with your life if there were nothing standing in your way kinds of things. im thinking these kinds of things could be generally useful especially in a cultural environment where we are all on stress overload. these days sweeping the floor can feel overwhelming for many.
while i do hate those shows that are exploitive of peoples weaknesses or illnesses and take them to the oh lets tune in and watch the wackos so we can all feel better about our own lives jerry springer tv thing, there are some that i applaud. for instance i was hooked on the biggest loser this year. i watched it on the net without commercial interruption! i think those people are extremely courageous for their willingness to put everything on the line to take back their life. if i have any uh moment with that show its the speed with which they get the weight off of the participants. i hope that they stick with it and make the lifelong changes and not fall back into the behaviors that got them into trouble in the first place. this show will be produced by the same group so im hoping that they will also showcase people who are fed up with what is and wish to make lasting changes to bring their life to the place they wish it to be.
as has been the case in recent years there are loads of new reality shows most of which bite but there are exceptions and one that i am really looking forward to watching is one tentatively called breakthrough. the idea is that individuals who are looking to make serious changes in their lives or looking to overcome serious obstacles are helped by tony robbins to make those changes. i know hes the middle of the night insomniac guru but i think hes very effective in what he does and this may turn out to be tv that actually has some worth. oh and btw they are casting as we speak so if anyone has any issues they wanna work on or goals they wish to accomplish this might be a very groovy way to get that done.
Yeah, sign me up! I'm pretty eager to have my issues (both real, and imagined) be broadcast and published by more than just the usual suspects.
as has been the case in recent years there are loads of new reality shows most of which bite but there are exceptions and one that i am really looking forward to watching is one tentatively called breakthrough. the idea is that individuals who are looking to make serious changes in their lives or looking to overcome serious obstacles are helped by tony robbins to make those changes. i know hes the middle of the night insomniac guru but i think hes very effective in what he does and this may turn out to be tv that actually has some worth. oh and btw they are casting as we speak so if anyone has any issues they wanna work on or goals they wish to accomplish this might be a very groovy way to get that done.
outfit. And yes, I will wear those crocs with that jersey. I just hope I don't get "rolled" for the jersey. And I'm pretty sure the shoes are safe from "rollers". 
