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nesea · Senior Member

RE: The Polarization of America

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.
and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

and to think the likes of gonzo and fozzy were contributing to the downfall of a nation ...

eight track tape decks ... yeah baby ::: said in my best austin powers voice::: remember how cool it was that they unclicked from the car and you could stash it in the truck .. the big ole clunky things .. reminds me of the first car phone I had .. lmao .. it had this big ass battery pack that you had to carry with it and an antenna with the magnet from hell that attached to the roof of the car ..

yep .... we were stylin

Yeppers ... us and Ron Popeil ...

Do you still have a working player ? <Gator

Naw. Just the tapes. Never did trust those players, anyway. ALWAYS seemed to be chowin' down on tapes.

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I have some tapes. (actually I have the bible on tape that I gave my Dad) No player. More songs on the eight track than you get today on a cd. <Gator

Yeah, and (at least in my case) you quite often got to listen to TWO of 'em at the same time! :)

I also have a bunch of old reel-to-reel "albums." DO have the player for that, but oy, who wants to go through all the effort to pull it out of storage, and then thread that tape through the dang thing, ya know? Have some GOOD tapes there, though, up through ... oh, I guess "Rhymin' Simon" was one of the last ones. Have NO clue what possessed me, really...

Psych Lit · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

and to think the likes of gonzo and fozzy were contributing to the downfall of a nation ...

Date: Thu Apr 23 3:06 PM, 2009

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.
and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

and to think the likes of gonzo and fozzy were contributing to the downfall of a nation ...

eight track tape decks ... yeah baby ::: said in my best austin powers voice::: remember how cool it was that they unclicked from the car and you could stash it in the truck .. the big ole clunky things .. reminds me of the first car phone I had .. lmao .. it had this big ass battery pack that you had to carry with it and an antenna with the magnet from hell that attached to the roof of the car ..

yep .... we were stylin

Yeppers ... us and Ron Popeil ...

Do you still have a working player ? I have some tapes. (actually I have the bible on tape that I gave my Dad) No player. More songs on the eight track than you get today on a cd.

"I believe in miracles.............Where you from? You sexy thang"

"I was born in the back seat of a .............pick up truck...................Rollin down highway 41" Gator................

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

yep .... we were stylin

Yeppers ... us and Ron Popeil ...

lololol ... wow ... I was just talking about the 70's like a minute ago in the earth day thread. Ron Popeil huh ... see you just can't find stuff like this these days. He is definitely stylin

wonder if this is pre-veg~o~matic?

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.
and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

and to think the likes of gonzo and fozzy were contributing to the downfall of a nation ...

eight track tape decks ... yeah baby ::: said in my best austin powers voice::: remember how cool it was that they unclicked from the car and you could stash it in the truck .. the big ole clunky things .. reminds me of the first car phone I had .. lmao .. it had this big ass battery pack that you had to carry with it and an antenna with the magnet from hell that attached to the roof of the car ..

yep .... we were stylin

Yeppers ... us and Ron Popeil ...

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.
and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

and to think the likes of gonzo and fozzy were contributing to the downfall of a nation ...

eight track tape decks ... yeah baby ::: said in my best austin powers voice::: remember how cool it was that they unclicked from the car and you could stash it in the truck .. the big ole clunky things .. reminds me of the first car phone I had .. lmao .. it had this big ass battery pack that you had to carry with it and an antenna with the magnet from hell that attached to the roof of the car ..

yep .... we were stylin

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

repeat after me..change is good...change is good....lol

Is that your tantric mantra and you're stickin' to it?

Change is highly overrated. An efficient, productive life and career is good, change is unsettling. Depending on what the change is, of course. ;)

Unsettling, perhaps, yes, but to me, "change" is synonymous with "life" and so to not like and embrace change is to be endlessly trapped in an unhappy, fearful, and frustrated, life.

"Change" is unavoidable -- ask The Tomato Plant Who could. It's there, whether we invoke it or not. The only thing we can alter is how we deal with it.

"Expect nothing. Live frugally on surprise." -- Alice Walker

Psych Lit · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Is that your tantric mantra and you're stickin' to it?

abso-tute-ly:)
Change is highly overrated. An efficient, productive life and career is good, change is unsettling. Depending on what the change is, of course. ;)
I guess. i like change as long as i can have some time to get used to it. i dont shift between well. i need to have time in between to do nothing at all and then i can move onto something new.

Date: Tue Apr 21 1:34 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

repeat after me..change is good...change is good....lol

Is that your tantric mantra and you're stickin' to it?

Change is highly overrated. An efficient, productive life and career is good, change is unsettling. Depending on what the change is, of course. ;)

Date: Tue Apr 21 1:00 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

repeat after me..change is good...change is good....lol

I read in the paper that surgeons are doing this from the OR. I'm not ready to embrace it. That aside something about abreviated communication makes me sad unless it is an alert to danger. . Gator

Psych Lit · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM
Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

repeat after me..change is good...change is good....lol

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.
and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM

Twitter fosters a new generation of psychadelic drug users, and should be dispensed with.

That's what they said about Sesame Street circa 1970, and no one listened, and look at all the psychadelic drug users in American now.

I rest my case.

<dusting off my eight track tapes today ... literally>

nesea · Senior Member

BoxDog wrote:

nesea wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TWITTERED
it could be. it certainly has the ear of the corportate world. that aspect is great

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"Karl Rove follows me on Twitter. That's creepy."
MEGHAN MCCAIN, griping in a blog post about the "need to take Twitter back from the creepy people"

This is the second time in the last week or so that this child has impressed me.

Callin it like she sees it

A couple of things. McCain may well be making some hugely public awkward assimilation, an outing if you will. This whole media blitz of hers began with her gripe over how difficult it was/is for her to get a boy to date her because of her fathers campaign. Also, I have always had an issue with taking back Twitter, or anything from anyone. First Amendment being what it is. And now the tool, good or evil (both subjective) The less, of anything, despite what's said, that we know is out there the less prepared we are to defend against it. And we barely defend now. Could you imagine if we were to take away the who's saying what and where?

What we need, Meghan, is to take back government from the "creepy people".

To clarify, I never meant to infer that twitter itself should be taken from Mr. Rove, or that he had less of a right to communicate through it than anyone else does .... just that I found Meghan McCain's observation (that he follows her on twitter is creepy) amusing .. and not without substance.

the idea of McCain using it as an outing hadn't occured to me .. but is an interesting concept.

and for the record ... lol .. i have taken the twitter plunge (although i have yet to tweet)

-- Edited by nesea on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 08:11:26 AM

BoxDog · Guru

nesea wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TWITTERED
it could be. it certainly has the ear of the corportate world. that aspect is great

Quotes of the Day »
Get & Share
"Karl Rove follows me on Twitter. That's creepy."
MEGHAN MCCAIN, griping in a blog post about the "need to take Twitter back from the creepy people"

This is the second time in the last week or so that this child has impressed me.

Callin it like she sees it

A couple of things. McCain may well be making some hugely public awkward assimilation, an outing if you will. This whole media blitz of hers began with her gripe over how difficult it was/is for her to get a boy to date her because of her fathers campaign. Also, I have always had an issue with taking back Twitter, or anything from anyone. First Amendment being what it is. And now the tool, good or evil (both subjective) The less, of anything, despite what's said, that we know is out there the less prepared we are to defend against it. And we barely defend now. Could you imagine if we were to take away the who's saying what and where?

What we need, Meghan, is to take back government from the "creepy people".

nesea · Senior Member

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TWITTERED
it could be. it certainly has the ear of the corportate world. that aspect is great

Quotes of the Day »
Get & Share
"Karl Rove follows me on Twitter. That's creepy."
MEGHAN MCCAIN, griping in a blog post about the "need to take Twitter back from the creepy people"

This is the second time in the last week or so that this child has impressed me.

Callin it like she sees it

Psych Lit · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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But back to my original point/question: Is it just me, or are Americans suddenly becoming notably more polarized? I wonder how much of this is actually generated by the people, and how much by the power brokers who seem to dictate to the people their thoughts, which so many eagerly gobble up as their own?

i think there are real differences in the way that people think in various parts of the country and those opinions seem to be fueled by pseudo news organizations that cater to particular beliefs. both sides think the other folks are dead wrong and not only wrong but really stupid. just last year some russian scholar predicted that the us would splinter into 6 areas. perhaps hes right. as far as actually leaving the union they may want to think twice. many of those states that have populations that are most in an uproar about govt spending are the states that contribute the least amount of tax revenue and reap the most benefit. i cant imagine a "country" where the largest source of revenue comes from lawyers. yikes.

Is this all about, at its core, economic panic?

i dont think so. i think its all about politics and power. the repubs lost and are now doing what they were doing when clinton was in office. disinformation campaigns etc. with an eye on the next election.

interestingly on the local news tonight, well on all 3 local stations that new hate ad from the marriage folks was discussed. apparently they will begin their hate speech tomorrow with an ad campaign on the radio and full page ads in most of the newspapers in the ne. what was interesting here was the spin the anchors put on it. basically they gave them the nut treatment. the oh geeze can you believe these people? followed by interviews with some in the legislature who basically said its all lies and fear.

The ever dwindling middle class seems to have all but disappeared altogether in recent months, and along with them, centrist thinking, leaving only the rich and the poor, and extreme points of view on just about everything. If indeed SILENCE = DEATH, have we seen the last of the TRUE "Great Silent Majority?" What lies immediately on the other side of this time in which we're now living? Who, what, are we to be five, or ten years down the road, if not less than that? Are we headed for a civil uprising/war with no central issue of debate, but rather a collection of muddy ideologies which find themselves lumped together, and embrace the power of increased numbers?

noise. thats all i see for the future. 24 hour a day blather followed by no privacy and no place to get away from it. next will be a general consensus on right acting and with the cameras in place it will indeed be 1984. no disagreements allowed. no street corner activism. no dissent.

Islamophobia and homophobia seem very clearly to be on the rise, and spewing out more vocal activists daily, and a McCarthyesque phobia regarding "socialism" and the wily nily labeling seems to be spreading rapidly to just about anyone who identifies with the left and agrees with those radical social service programs like food stamps and social security. I feel increased pressure from the fear mongers daily, and that alone creates a sort of fear in me.

yes this is what i mean by rightspeak. today was the national day of silence in support of safety for lgbt causes and im thinking we should be getting support for a national turn off the tv and think for yourself week or month or year. people, like dogs, can be vicious when they run in packs

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THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TWITTERED
it could be. it certainly has the ear of the corportate world. that aspect is great

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

I've been thinking about how much more polarized our nation seems to becoming, and it's an issue of concern for me.

I'm not sure if it's economics, or the rise in bigotry (racism, homophobia)as manipulated through funding by a select few, but it does seem people are less willing to search for and find "middle ground." There's a part of me that almost misses "ambivalence" or indecision. "Middle-of-the-road"ers. Seems just about everyone these days voices STRONG opinions about everything, and precious few seem even remotely willing to listen to the other side, and most sort have made up their minds about just about everything, and slammed the door shut.

One of those things, of course, is Barack Obama himself.

It occurs to me that this is a good time for his presidency, inasmuch as his message is to step away from partisanship and division along religious lines, and everyone just roll up their shirt sleeves and get busy fixing some of the problems our nation is now facing. I think it's important for him to step up his leadership in this area, though, and that he's not doing enough right now to encourage cohesion rather than fragmentation of the American people. Seems to me Obama's presidency is in need of some more spine right now, before things get so far afield they can't be reversed.

I read this morning, about the movement in Texas to secede (again) from the Union. There are murmurs in other states as well. Glancing at this, and noting the top three economic contributions Texas makes, I say, if the majority of Texans want to secede, the rest of us invest more heavily in alternative fuel, and let 'em.

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But back to my original point/question: Is it just me, or are Americans suddenly becoming notably more polarized? I wonder how much of this is actually generated by the people, and how much by the power brokers who seem to dictate to the people their thoughts, which so many eagerly gobble up as their own? Is this all about, at its core, economic panic? The ever dwindling middle class seems to have all but disappeared altogether in recent months, and along with them, centrist thinking, leaving only the rich and the poor, and extreme points of view on just about everything. If indeed SILENCE = DEATH, have we seen the last of the TRUE "Great Silent Majority?" What lies immediately on the other side of this time in which we're now living? Who, what, are we to be five, or ten years down the road, if not less than that? Are we headed for a civil uprising/war with no central issue of debate, but rather a collection of muddy ideologies which find themselves lumped together, and embrace the power of increased numbers? Islamophobia and homophobia seem very clearly to be on the rise, and spewing out more vocal activists daily, and a McCarthyesque phobia regarding "socialism" and the wily nily labeling seems to be spreading rapidly to just about anyone who identifies with the left and agrees with those radical social service programs like food stamps and social security. I feel increased pressure from the fear mongers daily, and that alone creates a sort of fear in me. As slurs against specific minority groups become more widely used and acceptable, and individual fears about losing things which matter to people, like marriage, religion, and "stuff" increase, it would seem we're setting ourselves up for an almost inevitable violent explosion of sorts -- quite possibly as early as this summer. I hope that's not the case, of course, but it does cross my mind.

THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TWITTERED