Where Everybody Knows You're Numb

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Benonymous wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Ideally, I suppose, these positions could be filled by the criminals that this administration wants to set free from our "overcrowded" prison system.  What do I know?

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Are the quotes around "overcrowded" meant to infer that prison overcrowding and sentencing inequity are "another pile of bs" in your opinion?

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Is the statement "sentencing inequity" not a bias statement? However, to the question, yes. 

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                    LOL.

 

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"Ve haf NO prison overcroud in dis country."

                                                                   

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Well really, if you stack them right from floor to ceiling there's plenty of room. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that! Back to the inequity note, I had this image of Governors trading prisoners to esthetically balance the census. Like Illinois needs to downsize a couple hundred A.A. and Arizona, FL and Cali need to lose a few Mexicans? This I really can see. No, really. I can see elected officials trading prisoners for pc statistics.

BTW, very funny. The Merkel twist and all.

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Benonymous wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Ideally, I suppose, these positions could be filled by the criminals that this administration wants to set free from our "overcrowded" prison system.  What do I know?

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Are the quotes around "overcrowded" meant to infer that prison overcrowding and sentencing inequity are "another pile of bs" in your opinion?

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Is the statement "sentencing inequity" not a bias statement? However, to the question, yes. 

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                    LOL.

 

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"Ve haf NO prison overcroud in dis country."

                                                                   

Benonymous wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Ideally, I suppose, these positions could be filled by the criminals that this administration wants to set free from our "overcrowded" prison system.  What do I know?

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Are the quotes around "overcrowded" meant to infer that prison overcrowding and sentencing inequity are "another pile of bs" in your opinion?

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Is the statement "sentencing inequity" not a bias statement? However, to the question, yes. 

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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All reports I know of have her here on a tourist visa and then seeking political asylum. A son in school here? Like a minor child? I just really don't recall ever hearing of this argument. Don't think Obama has either.  

 

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No, he was accepted at a Boston college.

 

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The following are not intended to be antagonistic, at all. I really hope you know this. This is just how it would or should unfold in our court system. Feds: "So, this "son" referred to....he was an adult? Presumably capable, as an adult child, to care for himself? Like his successful cousin Obama and Obamas Harvard educated Kenyan father?"  Case closed. Deportation upheld. 

 

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Psych Lit wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Bo. Illegal's illegal. She'd be a rock star in Kenya, at any rate it really isn't appropriate for this country to waste any more money on. She was ordered deported and is criminally remaining here. She should be sent back. There should be half the compassion for the Mexicans that pick our produce and build our infrastructure.

 

im not sure if anyone caught the immigration news today. its said to signal a change in policy with this administration. they raided a couple of places today with undocumented workers and out of all detained one was deported the others were issued temp cards. its not as it seems tho. the temp cards are to keep them in the country long enough for them to testify in the trial of their employer. apparently this admin is going after the employers rather than the workers. they all have a one year reprieve and will then have to go back. in the meantime they can stay legally.

 

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The argument of illegal is illegal and, the figure of 10 million being bounced around without  differentiating those that were granted permission that has expired and, deserving of full consideration from those undocumented that in no way should be here ,leaves a critical issue stuck in this side that side hell. Gator

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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IMO the "bull" is that Allllllllllllllllllllll this frickin' attention is focused on this one (ill) woman because she's related to the president. All this eagerness to send her back to that lovely vacation spot which is Kenya.

I swear, if I were I guy, I'd propose marriage to her, just to end ....

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The deportation order was issued in 2004. She hasn't worked a single day, legally or illegally, in this country. <BD


Yes, she has. She applied for, and GOT a social security card in 2001. She has worked for, and I think continues to work, yes, as a volunteer, for the Experience Corps, mentoring kids.

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Sorry, I find it a very relevant issue, regardless of him. ESPECIALLY! because her immigration attorney is arguing that if she follows the order of the court, five years ago, she will now be at risk in Kenya. At risk because she is the Aunt of the president? <BD


Possibly, but more probably because Kenya is still incredibly unstable. But yeah, now that you mention it, that would certainly be as good a reason as any, now, wouldn't it. Who better to take as a hostage than a relative of the president of the United States? Yeah, we haven't had this "problem" before before, but we went and elected someone who has family ties in another country, and who isn't stinkin' rich. Shame on us.

Talk about vulnerability. I'd not even thought about that angle before, but yeah, her deportation could easily be looked upon as a death sentence, now that you mention it... 

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 They shouldn't be arguing to that point if they want to keep the polarizing off of the relationship between her and obama. <BD


It wasn't a "relevant issue" until a couple of weeks before the general election when it was leaked by an unnamed "govermental source." It's all political, aimed at Obama, and you and I both know it.   

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-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Wednesday 1st of April 2009 05:14:53 PM

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Mentoring kids? perfect. I lean more to the "lead by example" philosophy and that just doesn't seem to fit no matter which way it's spun. Built a fence, everywhere but....there. Illegal's illegal. She'd be a rock star in Kenya, at any rate it really isn't appropriate for this country to waste any more money on. She was ordered deported and is criminally remaining here. She should be sent back. There should be half the compassion for the Mexicans that pick our produce and build our infrastructure.

 

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Well, I'm in agreement with your last sentence, for sure -- maybe twice as much in some cases. Incidentally she did COME her on a legal visa -- had a son go to school in Boston

 

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All reports I know of have her here on a tourist visa and then seeking political asylum. A son in school here? Like a minor child? I just really don't recall ever hearing of this argument. Don't think Obama has either.  

 

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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Bo. Illegal's illegal. She'd be a rock star in Kenya, at any rate it really isn't appropriate for this country to waste any more money on. She was ordered deported and is criminally remaining here. She should be sent back. There should be half the compassion for the Mexicans that pick our produce and build our infrastructure.

 

im not sure if anyone caught the immigration news today. its said to signal a change in policy with this administration. they raided a couple of places today with undocumented workers and out of all detained one was deported the others were issued temp cards. its not as it seems tho. the temp cards are to keep them in the country long enough for them to testify in the trial of their employer. apparently this admin is going after the employers rather than the workers. they all have a one year reprieve and will then have to go back. in the meantime they can stay legally.

 

BoxDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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BoxDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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IMO the "bull" is that Allllllllllllllllllllll this frickin' attention is focused on this one (ill) woman because she's related to the president. All this eagerness to send her back to that lovely vacation spot which is Kenya.

I swear, if I were I guy, I'd propose marriage to her, just to end ....

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The deportation order was issued in 2004. She hasn't worked a single day, legally or illegally, in this country. <BD


Yes, she has. She applied for, and GOT a social security card in 2001. She has worked for, and I think continues to work, yes, as a volunteer, for the Experience Corps, mentoring kids.

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Sorry, I find it a very relevant issue, regardless of him. ESPECIALLY! because her immigration attorney is arguing that if she follows the order of the court, five years ago, she will now be at risk in Kenya. At risk because she is the Aunt of the president? <BD


Possibly, but more probably because Kenya is still incredibly unstable. But yeah, now that you mention it, that would certainly be as good a reason as any, now, wouldn't it. Who better to take as a hostage than a relative of the president of the United States? Yeah, we haven't had this "problem" before before, but we went and elected someone who has family ties in another country, and who isn't stinkin' rich. Shame on us.

Talk about vulnerability. I'd not even thought about that angle before, but yeah, her deportation could easily be looked upon as a death sentence, now that you mention it... 

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 They shouldn't be arguing to that point if they want to keep the polarizing off of the relationship between her and obama. <BD


It wasn't a "relevant issue" until a couple of weeks before the general election when it was leaked by an unnamed "govermental source." It's all political, aimed at Obama, and you and I both know it.   

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-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Wednesday 1st of April 2009 05:14:53 PM

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Mentoring kids? perfect. I lean more to the "lead by example" philosophy and that just doesn't seem to fit no matter which way it's spun. Built a fence, everywhere but....there. Illegal's illegal. She'd be a rock star in Kenya, at any rate it really isn't appropriate for this country to waste any more money on. She was ordered deported and is criminally remaining here. She should be sent back. There should be half the compassion for the Mexicans that pick our produce and build our infrastructure.

 

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Well, I'm in agreement with your last sentence, for sure -- maybe twice as much in some cases. Incidentally she did COME her on a legal visa -- had a son go to school in Boston

 

BoxDog wrote:

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Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

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IMO the "bull" is that Allllllllllllllllllllll this frickin' attention is focused on this one (ill) woman because she's related to the president. All this eagerness to send her back to that lovely vacation spot which is Kenya.

I swear, if I were I guy, I'd propose marriage to her, just to end ....

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The deportation order was issued in 2004. She hasn't worked a single day, legally or illegally, in this country. <BD


Yes, she has. She applied for, and GOT a social security card in 2001. She has worked for, and I think continues to work, yes, as a volunteer, for the Experience Corps, mentoring kids.

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Sorry, I find it a very relevant issue, regardless of him. ESPECIALLY! because her immigration attorney is arguing that if she follows the order of the court, five years ago, she will now be at risk in Kenya. At risk because she is the Aunt of the president? <BD


Possibly, but more probably because Kenya is still incredibly unstable. But yeah, now that you mention it, that would certainly be as good a reason as any, now, wouldn't it. Who better to take as a hostage than a relative of the president of the United States? Yeah, we haven't had this "problem" before before, but we went and elected someone who has family ties in another country, and who isn't stinkin' rich. Shame on us.

Talk about vulnerability. I'd not even thought about that angle before, but yeah, her deportation could easily be looked upon as a death sentence, now that you mention it... 

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 They shouldn't be arguing to that point if they want to keep the polarizing off of the relationship between her and obama. <BD


It wasn't a "relevant issue" until a couple of weeks before the general election when it was leaked by an unnamed "govermental source." It's all political, aimed at Obama, and you and I both know it.   

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-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Wednesday 1st of April 2009 05:14:53 PM

IMO the "bull" is that Allllllllllllllllllllll this frickin' attention is focused on this one (ill) woman because she's related to the president. All this eagerness to send her back to that lovely vacation spot which is Kenya.

I swear, if I were I guy, I'd propose marriage to her, just to end ....