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Psych Lit · Guru

RE: COOKING TIPS

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Psych Lit wrote:

nesea wrote:

oh and that saffron .. it is expensive .. but every now and again, when I'm feeling special I buy a tiny little vial for somewhere around $10 - $15, right from amazon .. and I too can nosh like a Rockafeller <bg>

when i lived in the near midwest someone turned my on to a particular spice shop and they have branches all over the us. when i moved back i started ordering from their catalogue but discovered that they have a shop in my old home town so i stop there a few times a year to restock. i do believe there are shops in the new york metro area, florida and AZ too. i like the ability to poke around and discuss what things are and what one can do with them. if youre interested heres their home page link
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/penzeysproducts.html

Thankee! :)

Date: Sun Jun 28 8:54 PM, 2009

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

I toss dill on everything from my overeasy eggs to tuna & egg salad or add it with some white vinegar and sugar and pour over a thinly sliced cucumber ... or a tomato sandwich (which I LOVE .. and now that I mentioned it I will have to have one) it's one of the things I use the most. <Nesea

One of my "comfort food" items is a dish Grandma used to make ... with produce from her own garden, but even so, it works in a pinch with grocery store fare. I don't know if it's the smell of cukes and vinegar in the kitchen, or what, but Grandma used to always make a little side dish of marinated cucumber (Burkee's Burpless) slices and onion slice rings. She'd just chop 'em up and add sugar and apple cider vinegar, refrigerate for a bit, and, dang!

The key is to cut the cukes to the right width so that they don't get limp and soggy, but aren't overly crunchy, either. I don't make it often enough to fare particularly well in that arena, but even so, it's always pretty dang good, and is welcome at any small family summer picnic.

YES ... now just toss in some dill and there ya go!! I believe its the vinegar that helps the cukes retain their crispy-ness too.

Matter of fact, when making french fries, some folks slice the taters and let them sit in a water - vinegar solution to remove starch while retaining crunch.

I have 2 huge cucumbers (QQ at MS) everyday now and, soon will be 3-4. BTW I am an expert and, I cut my cucumbers in exact 1/8 of an inch squares. Tonight, I used them to make the the vinegar / sugar toss ............ oh course sprinkled with dill. I'll will start pickeling this week. If it's not dill it's thyme, which is also exceptional in chicken salad. Which is also my specialty. Have a great week ladies. You too BD Gator

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

I toss dill on everything from my overeasy eggs to tuna & egg salad or add it with some white vinegar and sugar and pour over a thinly sliced cucumber ... or a tomato sandwich (which I LOVE .. and now that I mentioned it I will have to have one) it's one of the things I use the most. <Nesea

One of my "comfort food" items is a dish Grandma used to make ... with produce from her own garden, but even so, it works in a pinch with grocery store fare. I don't know if it's the smell of cukes and vinegar in the kitchen, or what, but Grandma used to always make a little side dish of marinated cucumber (Burkee's Burpless) slices and onion slice rings. She'd just chop 'em up and add sugar and apple cider vinegar, refrigerate for a bit, and, dang!

The key is to cut the cukes to the right width so that they don't get limp and soggy, but aren't overly crunchy, either. I don't make it often enough to fare particularly well in that arena, but even so, it's always pretty dang good, and is welcome at any small family summer picnic.

YES ... now just toss in some dill and there ya go!! I believe its the vinegar that helps the cukes retain their crispy-ness too.

Matter of fact, when making french fries, some folks slice the taters and let them sit in a water - vinegar solution to remove starch while retaining crunch.

Psych Lit · Guru

nesea wrote:

oh and that saffron .. it is expensive .. but every now and again, when I'm feeling special I buy a tiny little vial for somewhere around $10 - $15, right from amazon .. and I too can nosh like a Rockafeller <bg>

when i lived in the near midwest someone turned my on to a particular spice shop and they have branches all over the us. when i moved back i started ordering from their catalogue but discovered that they have a shop in my old home town so i stop there a few times a year to restock. i do believe there are shops in the new york metro area, florida and AZ too. i like the ability to poke around and discuss what things are and what one can do with them. if youre interested heres their home page link

http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/penzeysproducts.html

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Yanno, I'm a traditionalist (SWEET PICKLES!) when it comes to 'tater salad, but I have some hoity toity pals who make a tres chic potatoe sa-laaaaaaaaaaad with red potatos and dill, and some kind of oil rather than mayo; it's an interesting taste, although I wouldn't personally call it potato salad. :)

Last week I made a tater salad very similar to what you're describing here. I used a Cooks Illustrated recipe which I will paste here. I didn't have all the ingredients listed (no chervil so I used dill) and it still came out pretty good.

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A long time ago I bought a tiny little bottle of dill seasoning. I rarely use it, but once in a blue moon it seems to be pretty handy to have around. I also had a jar of dill relish fordangever that I finally used up. It was pretty good when I wanted to have a poor-woman's tartar sauce ...

I toss dill on everything from my overeasy eggs to tuna & egg salad or add it with some white vinegar and sugar and pour over a thinly sliced cucumber ... or a tomato sandwich (which I LOVE .. and now that I mentioned it I will have to have one) it's one of the things I use the most.

oh and that saffron .. it is expensive .. but every now and again, when I'm feeling special I buy a tiny little vial for somewhere around $10 - $15, right from amazon .. and I too can nosh like a Rockafeller <bg>

Yeah? Well, shoot, THAT'S do-able!
I've never used it on anything except rice, and that was way back in my white rice days, at that.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

I toss dill on everything from my overeasy eggs to tuna & egg salad or add it with some white vinegar and sugar and pour over a thinly sliced cucumber ... or a tomato sandwich (which I LOVE .. and now that I mentioned it I will have to have one) it's one of the things I use the most. <Nesea

One of my "comfort food" items is a dish Grandma used to make ... with produce from her own garden, but even so, it works in a pinch with grocery store fare. I don't know if it's the smell of cukes and vinegar in the kitchen, or what, but Grandma used to always make a little side dish of marinated cucumber (Burkee's Burpless) slices and onion slice rings. She'd just chop 'em up and add sugar and apple cider vinegar, refrigerate for a bit, and, dang!

The key is to cut the cukes to the right width so that they don't get limp and soggy, but aren't overly crunchy, either. I don't make it often enough to fare particularly well in that arena, but even so, it's always pretty dang good, and is welcome at any small family summer picnic.

oh and that saffron .. it is expensive .. but every now and again, when I'm feeling special I buy a tiny little vial for somewhere around $10 - $15, right from amazon .. and I too can nosh like a Rockafeller <bg>

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Yanno, I'm a traditionalist (SWEET PICKLES!) when it comes to 'tater salad, but I have some hoity toity pals who make a tres chic potatoe sa-laaaaaaaaaaad with red potatos and dill, and some kind of oil rather than mayo; it's an interesting taste, although I wouldn't personally call it potato salad. :)

Last week I made a tater salad very similar to what you're describing here. I used a Cooks Illustrated recipe which I will paste here. I didn't have all the ingredients listed (no chervil so I used dill) and it still came out pretty good.

-----------------------------------------
A long time ago I bought a tiny little bottle of dill seasoning. I rarely use it, but once in a blue moon it seems to be pretty handy to have around. I also had a jar of dill relish fordangever that I finally used up. It was pretty good when I wanted to have a poor-woman's tartar sauce ...

I toss dill on everything from my overeasy eggs to tuna & egg salad or add it with some white vinegar and sugar and pour over a thinly sliced cucumber ... or a tomato sandwich (which I LOVE .. and now that I mentioned it I will have to have one) it's one of the things I use the most.

oh and that saffron .. it is expensive .. but every now and again, when I'm feeling special

I buy a tiny little vial for somewhere around $10 - $15, right from amazon .. and I too can nosh like a Rockafeller <bg>

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Yanno, I'm a traditionalist (SWEET PICKLES!) when it comes to 'tater salad, but I have some hoity toity pals who make a tres chic potatoe sa-laaaaaaaaaaad with red potatos and dill, and some kind of oil rather than mayo; it's an interesting taste, although I wouldn't personally call it potato salad. :)

Last week I made a tater salad very similar to what you're describing here. I used a Cooks Illustrated recipe which I will paste here. I didn't have all the ingredients listed (no chervil so I used dill) and it still came out pretty good.

-----------------------------------------
A long time ago I bought a tiny little bottle of dill seasoning. I rarely use it, but once in a blue moon it seems to be pretty handy to have around. I also had a jar of dill relish fordangever that I finally used up. It was pretty good when I wanted to have a poor-woman's tartar sauce ...

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

I didn't have all the ingredients listed (no chervil so I used dill)

GASP!!!

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Yanno, I'm a traditionalist (SWEET PICKLES!) when it comes to 'tater salad, but I have some hoity toity pals who make a tres chic potatoe sa-laaaaaaaaaaad with red potatos and dill, and some kind of oil rather than mayo; it's an interesting taste, although I wouldn't personally call it potato salad. :)

Last week I made a tater salad very similar to what you're describing here. I used a Cooks Illustrated recipe which I will paste here. I didn't have all the ingredients listed (no chervil so I used dill) and it still came out pretty good.

French Potato Salad with Dijon Mustard and Fines Herbes

If fresh chervil isnt available, substitute an additional 1/2 tablespoon of minced parsley and an additional 1/2 teaspoon of tarragon. For best flavor, serve the salad warm, but to make ahead, follow the recipe through step 2, cover with plastic wrap, and refrigerate. Before serving, bring the salad to room temperature, then add the shallots and herbs.

Ingredients

2	pounds small red potatoes (about 2-inch diameter), unpeeled, scrubbed, and cut into 1/4-inch-thick slices
2	tablespoons table salt
1	medium clove garlic , peeled and threaded on skewer
1 1/2	tablespoons champagne vinegar or white wine vinegar
2	teaspoons Dijon mustard
1/4	cup olive oil
1/2	teaspoon ground black pepper
1	small shallot , minced (about 2 tablespoons)
1	tablespoon minced fresh chervil leaves
1	tablespoon minced fresh parsley leaves
1	tablespoon minced fresh chives
1	teaspoon minced fresh tarragon leaves

1. Place potatoes, 6 cups cold tap water, and salt in large saucepan; bring to boil over high heat, then reduce heat to medium. Lower skewered garlic into simmering water and partially blanch, about 45 seconds. Immediately run garlic under cold tap water to stop cooking; remove garlic from skewer and set aside. Continue to simmer potatoes, uncovered, until tender but still firm (thin-bladed paring knife can be slipped into and out of center of potato slice with no resistance), about 5 minutes. Drain potatoes, reserving 1/4 cup cooking water. Arrange hot potatoes close together in single layer on rimmed baking sheet.
2. Press garlic through garlic press or mince by hand. Whisk garlic, reserved potato cooking water, vinegar, mustard, oil, and pepper in small bowl until combined. Drizzle dressing evenly over warm potatoes; let stand 10 minutes.
3. Toss shallot and herbs in small bowl. Transfer potatoes to large serving bowl; add shallot/herb mixture and mix gently with rubber spatula to combine. Serve immediately.
1. 1. Place potatoes, 6 cups cold tap water, and salt in large saucepan; bring to boil over high heat, then reduce heat to medium. Lower skewered garlic into simmering water and partially blanch, about 45 seconds. Immediately run garlic under cold tap water to stop cooking; remove garlic from skewer and set aside. Continue to simmer potatoes, uncovered, until tender but still firm (thin-bladed paring knife can be slipped into and out of center of potato slice with no resistance), about 5 minutes. Drain potatoes, reserving 1/4 cup cooking water. Arrange hot potatoes close together in single layer on rimmed baking sheet.
2. 2. Press garlic through garlic press or mince by hand. Whisk garlic, reserved potato cooking water, vinegar, mustard, oil, and pepper in small bowl until combined. Drizzle dressing evenly over warm potatoes; let stand 10 minutes.
3. 3. Toss shallot and herbs in small bowl. Transfer potatoes to large serving bowl; add shallot/herb mixture and mix gently with rubber spatula to combine. Serve immediately.

Date: Sat Jun 27 12:05 AM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?
Yanno, Psych ... we may be looking the wrong place. MAYBE the secret is in the way the chicken was prepared.

oh nooooooo i hadnt thought about that!

I should have been asleep hours ago, but now I'm deeply entrenched. Chick salad is one of my specialties. I don't know what you do for the chicken, but I use breasts, injected with liquid marinades, just as if grilling and then poaching, or just boiling. I like the chicken shredded when it cools just enough to handle. Also, defrosted, drained, previously frozen peas is the MUST have in my chick salads. Probably would be easier to show up on your friends doorstep with a loaded crossbow and ask her again wtf is in her salad, or not. Just a thought...

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Psych Lit wrote:

btw im taking note of all of these suggestions and ill try em. i havent tried cilantro in this tho i have a ton of it in the garden. its grown way too fast and looks weird. all this rain aiyiyi. more of it today and wild wild weather. my kids in ct had trees come down in their yards and hail 2 in in diameter..we didnt get the hail and downed trees but did get the wild rainstorms. btw did ya know that coriander comes from the same cilantro plant? i didnt know til i read it the other day. i dont usually add salt to anything but ive been rethinking that lately after reading a lot of articles about the lack of iodine in womens diets and how that contributes to thyroid problems. the greek salt think sounds interesting as does the celery salt and the pickle juice! i like dill dip a lot but ive not used dill in any other way. ill have to play with that a bit i think and get a feel for the taste.

-- Edited by Psych Lit on Friday 26th of June 2009 10:21:32 PM

Yanno, I'm a traditionalist (SWEET PICKLES!) when it comes to 'tater salad, but I have some hoity toity pals who make a tres chic potatoe sa-laaaaaaaaaaad with red potatos and dill, and some kind of oil rather than mayo; it's an interesting taste, although I wouldn't personally call it potato salad. :)

Psych Lit · Guru

btw im taking note of all of these suggestions and ill try em. i havent tried cilantro in this tho i have a ton of it in the garden. its grown way too fast and looks weird. all this rain aiyiyi. more of it today and wild wild weather. my kids in ct had trees come down in their yards and hail 2 in in diameter..we didnt get the hail and downed trees but did get the wild rainstorms. btw did ya know that coriander comes from the same cilantro plant? i didnt know til i read it the other day. i dont usually add salt to anything but ive been rethinking that lately after reading a lot of articles about the lack of iodine in womens diets and how that contributes to thyroid problems. the greek salt think sounds interesting as does the celery salt and the pickle juice! i like dill dip a lot but ive not used dill in any other way. ill have to play with that a bit i think and get a feel for the taste.

-- Edited by Psych Lit on Friday 26th of June 2009 10:21:32 PM

Psych Lit · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?
Yanno, Psych ... we may be looking the wrong place. MAYBE the secret is in the way the chicken was prepared.

oh nooooooo i hadnt thought about that!

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?

Yanno, Psych ... we may be looking the wrong place. MAYBE the secret is in the way the chicken was prepared.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

nesea wrote:

Dry mustard or saffron would add color and flavor. And one I use a lot with mayo ... pickle juice. I like the dill idea too and would consider shallot or chive in lieu of red onion. It does sound yummy.

lol ... see what too many cooks in the kitchen will getcha'

I save sweet pickle juice just for potato salad. (And tuna salad, in a pinch.) :)

Another seaoning of which I'm rather fond is celery salt. I first bought it just for Virgin Mary's but have branched out a bit since then.

Saffron? Is this Rockafeller pasta salad??? wink

<loves crowded kitchens> biggrin

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Friday 26th of June 2009 04:26:39 PM

nesea · Senior Member

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?

Soooooooooooo what are the ingredients you have?
If you can identify it, what's the sort of flavor you're missing?

the original had a light yellow color and a mayo type base. when i asked her for the recipe she said it was just pasta, chicken, mayo and dijon mustard and i tried that and there was a lot missing in that recipe. tonight i put pasta, cubed chicken, grape tomatoes, diced celery, parsley, diced green and red peppers, italian seasoning, kraft peppercorn ranch dressing and 2 tbsps of dijon mustard. it was close. im getting there. theres still some mystery seasoning thats missing.

"Hmmmmmmm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...
Your dish DOES sound quite yummy, though.

Dry mustard or saffron would add color and flavor. And one I use a lot with mayo ... pickle juice. I like the dill idea too and would consider shallot or chive in lieu of red onion. It does sound yummy.

lol ... see what too many cooks in the kitchen will getcha'

Date: Fri Jun 26 3:13 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

P
mm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

i tried the yellow mustard once and that wasnt it. tried curry and that wasnt it. i cant id whats missing. you know how there are ingredients that once added make the others flavors pop? thats whats missing. garlic is like that, tho im not a big garlic fan a little added to some things works well. it co-mingles with various seasonings and enhances them and thats sort of the difference that ive noticed the flavors arent as distinct. i tried a bit of garlic for this once and that didnt do it either.

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

sometimes its better! initially i tried the mayo and it was kind of bland so i thought this time of trying the peppercorn ranch which has sort of a zing to it and maybe that would provide the missing ingredient. it was pretty good with the ranch, prolly better than with mayo. now she did say italian seasoning when she first gave me the recipe. i assumed the dry seasonings. i cant imagine combining italian salad dressing with mayo? im wondering tho if thats what she did. it would explain the yellow color.

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...

i skipped the onion in it because id cut up onion slices for the burgers and i was thinking it might be too much of a good thing. its vidalia season too. usually tho i do add the red onion to any pasta salad!

Did anyone guess Dill yet? I love chicken salad that includes grapes and pecans. Vidalia georgia is a close enough drive that a lot sell them here road side. Gator

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

P
mm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

i tried the yellow mustard once and that wasnt it. tried curry and that wasnt it. i cant id whats missing. you know how there are ingredients that once added make the others flavors pop? thats whats missing. garlic is like that, tho im not a big garlic fan a little added to some things works well. it co-mingles with various seasonings and enhances them and thats sort of the difference that ive noticed the flavors arent as distinct. i tried a bit of garlic for this once and that didnt do it either.

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

sometimes its better! initially i tried the mayo and it was kind of bland so i thought this time of trying the peppercorn ranch which has sort of a zing to it and maybe that would provide the missing ingredient. it was pretty good with the ranch, prolly better than with mayo. now she did say italian seasoning when she first gave me the recipe. i assumed the dry seasonings. i cant imagine combining italian salad dressing with mayo? im wondering tho if thats what she did. it would explain the yellow color.

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...

i skipped the onion in it because id cut up onion slices for the burgers and i was thinking it might be too much of a good thing. its vidalia season too. usually tho i do add the red onion to any pasta salad!

Cilantro?

Or how about .... SALT.
Seasoned salt, maybe, like Krazy Salt. I used to make a rotelle salad and Cavandish Geek seasoning salt was my "secret ingredient." If not that, how about vinegar?

Date: Fri Jun 26 2:54 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

P
mm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

i tried the yellow mustard once and that wasnt it. tried curry and that wasnt it. i cant id whats missing. you know how there are ingredients that once added make the others flavors pop? thats whats missing. garlic is like that, tho im not a big garlic fan a little added to some things works well. it co-mingles with various seasonings and enhances them and thats sort of the difference that ive noticed the flavors arent as distinct. i tried a bit of garlic for this once and that didnt do it either.

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

sometimes its better! initially i tried the mayo and it was kind of bland so i thought this time of trying the peppercorn ranch which has sort of a zing to it and maybe that would provide the missing ingredient. it was pretty good with the ranch, prolly better than with mayo. now she did say italian seasoning when she first gave me the recipe. i assumed the dry seasonings. i cant imagine combining italian salad dressing with mayo? im wondering tho if thats what she did. it would explain the yellow color.

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...

i skipped the onion in it because id cut up onion slices for the burgers and i was thinking it might be too much of a good thing. its vidalia season too. usually tho i do add the red onion to any pasta salad!

Cilantro?

Psych Lit · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

P
mm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

i tried the yellow mustard once and that wasnt it. tried curry and that wasnt it. i cant id whats missing. you know how there are ingredients that once added make the others flavors pop? thats whats missing. garlic is like that, tho im not a big garlic fan a little added to some things works well. it co-mingles with various seasonings and enhances them and thats sort of the difference that ive noticed the flavors arent as distinct. i tried a bit of garlic for this once and that didnt do it either.

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

sometimes its better! initially i tried the mayo and it was kind of bland so i thought this time of trying the peppercorn ranch which has sort of a zing to it and maybe that would provide the missing ingredient. it was pretty good with the ranch, prolly better than with mayo. now she did say italian seasoning when she first gave me the recipe. i assumed the dry seasonings. i cant imagine combining italian salad dressing with mayo? im wondering tho if thats what she did. it would explain the yellow color.

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...

i skipped the onion in it because id cut up onion slices for the burgers and i was thinking it might be too much of a good thing. its vidalia season too. usually tho i do add the red onion to any pasta salad!

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Psych Lit wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?

Soooooooooooo what are the ingredients you have?
If you can identify it, what's the sort of flavor you're missing?

the original had a light yellow color and a mayo type base. when i asked her for the recipe she said it was just pasta, chicken, mayo and dijon mustard and i tried that and there was a lot missing in that recipe. tonight i put pasta, cubed chicken, grape tomatoes, diced celery, parsley, diced green and red peppers, italian seasoning, kraft peppercorn ranch dressing and 2 tbsps of dijon mustard. it was close. im getting there. theres still some mystery seasoning thats missing.

"Hmmmmmmm," she said, cupping her chin in her hand...

So was hers sweeter? More tangy?
Maybe a dash of honey, or (trust me on this) a wee bit o' thyme? Cumin? How about mint? Paprika? Perhaps some yellow mustard in addition to the dijon (since dijon wouldn't really give it the yellowy color, would it?)

IMO, ranch dressing isn't an acceptable substitute for mayo. :)

OMG, Psych -- where's the onion??? Slivers of red onion in that?? Gadzooks, I'm salavating...
Your dish DOES sound quite yummy, though.

Psych Lit · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?

Soooooooooooo what are the ingredients you have?
If you can identify it, what's the sort of flavor you're missing?

the original had a light yellow color and a mayo type base. when i asked her for the recipe she said it was just pasta, chicken, mayo and dijon mustard and i tried that and there was a lot missing in that recipe. tonight i put pasta, cubed chicken, grape tomatoes, diced celery, parsley, diced green and red peppers, italian seasoning, kraft peppercorn ranch dressing and 2 tbsps of dijon mustard. it was close. im getting there. theres still some mystery seasoning thats missing.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

(borrowed from another thread)

im still trying to perfect that chicken pasta salad and tonights was closer than ever to the original tho im still an ingredient or so off dangit. i hate when people dont share the real recipe yanno?

Soooooooooooo what are the ingredients you have?
If you can identify it, what's the sort of flavor you're missing?

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Heh. This could pretty much use up my whole harvest. LOL.

Dinner: Texas Sweet Onion Pie

Serves: 8 servings

Prep time: 20 minutes

Cook time: 45 minutes

1 (9-inch) pie crust

5 strips thick-sliced apple-cured bacon

3 tablespoons unsalted butter

3 cups (about 1 1/2 to 2 medium) sliced sweet onions

2 eggs

1 (16-ounce) container sour cream

3 tablespoons all-purpose flour

3/4 teaspoon salt

1 teaspoon coarsely ground black pepper

Preheat oven to 325 degrees. Place an oven rack on the lowest setting.

Fit the crust into pie pan and bake for 12 to 15 minutes; it will only be partially baked. Set aside. If you like a crispier crust, you might want to add a little extra cooking time or increase the temperature. Don't be disconcerted if the crust shrinks a bit; there should still be room for the filling because custard topping doesn't rise too much.

Meanwhile, in a cast-iron skillet, fry the bacon until just crisp. Remove and cut into 1/2-inch pieces and return to skillet. Add butter and cook until melted. Add the onions and saute for 5 to 7 minutes, or until lightly browned. Using tongs or a slotted spoon, transfer the mixture to the partially baked pie crust and set aside (if you want to go "whole hog," go ahead and add all the bacon fat, too).

In a bowl, beat eggs. Add sour cream and stir well to combine. Add flour, salt and pepper and stir well to combine. Pour over the onion mixture. Bake for 30 minutes or until firm. Let cool to set a bit before serving.

-- Adapted from Janis Owens' "The Cracker Kitchen" (Scribner)

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Just my

I'd consider this an online article; "article" for short.
Parenthetically, "news article" seems a semantic blank any more, thanks largely to the slide from hard news to tabloid "news" and television "news magazines."

Wrap celery in aluminum foil, and it will stay crisp weeks longer.
smile

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 on Friday 17th of April 2009 08:21:41 AM

Date: Fri Apr 17 6:48 AM, 2009

My Turn wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

With all due respect this is not an article, but an opinion from a blog. The source is similar, though opposite, to what the finger pointer is accusimg Fox of. Huffington Post is an online BLOG. BD
Piece of nonfictional writing on a specific topic, identified by its title and often by its author(s), and published with other such literary works.

Calling it an article works for me. Gator

yup. works for me too!

Well there's not a blog out there I would personally compare to the works of Eliot, Hawthorne, the Bronte(s) or Chaucer, but if that's the barometer set don't forget the door swings both ways. Those "other" such literary works would then elevate the likes of any right wing blog to the same such category, "article". It's a shame, to me, that the current turn is such that this ground is becoming a morgue of dead blogs. They serve absolutely no purpose if all they do is end up as a plop and defense of same. Any other such commentary regarding similar thoughts are easily began by and often to by others with your (our) own words. Part of me hope that makes sense, the other part could not care to explain it if it doesn't. ;)

Date: Thu Apr 16 7:17 PM, 2009

Food & Water Watch Joins 200 Groups to Urge an End to Speculation that Drove Global Food Crisis

WASHINGTON, D.C. Food & Water Watch, along with a coalition of faith, farm, food, hunger and international development groups, today sent a letter to President Barack Obama and congressional leaders demanding decisive action to prevent speculation in the commodity markets from threatening the food security of hundreds of millions of people. According to the coalitions letter, A significant part of last years food price fluctuations were the result of excessive speculation in the commodities markets by the very hedge funds and investment banks that helped create the current economic meltdown.

Congress and the White House must wring excess speculation out of the commodities markets to tamp down on the tremendous food price volatility that is harming consumers and farmers worldwide, said Food & Water Watch Executive Director Wenonah Hauter.

The letter was signed by 183 social justice and civil society groups, including 76 U.S.-based organizations and 107 international groups from 29 countries. The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization estimated that 200 million additional people in the developing world faced malnutrition because of surging food prices in 2008. The letter urges the president and Congress to pass legislation to re-regulate the commodity markets to prevent speculation from continuing to contribute to global hunger.

The letter states that the 2008 food price volatility could have been stopped with sensible rules that, if enforced, would have staved off the malnutrition and starvation that was caused by excessive gambling of food prices. Important reforms are needed now to prevent mega-investors from viewing the futures market like a casino where they can gamble on hunger.

There are several proposals in Congress that aim to reform the commodities markets. House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson passed legislation out of his committee (H.R. 977, the Derivatives Markets Transparency and Accountability Act of 2009) that takes important first steps to prevent excess speculation from inflating food prices, but this legislation needs to be strengthened. Senators Tom Harkin, Chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee, and Senator Carl Levin have also introduced measures.

Congress is assembling important legislative building blocks that could prevent speculative agricultural price bubbles from increasing global hunger, said Hauter. Strong commodities speculation reform measures must ensure that all commodity futures marketplaces are adequately regulated and that giant investment funds do not exert undo speculative pressures on food prices.

To view the coalition letter, please click here.

Food & Water Watch, a nonprofit consumer organization based in Washington, D.C., works to ensure clean water and safe food in the United States and around the world. We challenge the corporate control and abuse of our food and water resources by empowering people to take action and transforming the public consciousness about what we eat and drink. For more information, visit www.foodandwaterwatch.org.

My Turn · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

With all due respect this is not an article, but an opinion from a blog. The source is similar, though opposite, to what the finger pointer is accusimg Fox of. Huffington Post is an online BLOG. BD
Piece of nonfictional writing on a specific topic, identified by its title and often by its author(s), and published with other such literary works.

Calling it an article works for me. Gator

yup. works for me too!

AlphaOmega · Member

Anonymous wrote:

Who once were the people you speak of? Gator

"Soldiers come home to families that do not understand the changes in personality, mental ability or the inability to re-integrate into civilian life.As a result, these former soldiers turn to abuses, experience failed relationships and become too stressed for normal interaction.The result is that they begin wandering in an effort to burn energy and get to sleep.
97% of homeless veterans are male and the majority of them come from challenging backgrounds, are single, poor, older and educated.Half of the homeless veterans are African-American or Hispanic.More than 70% have alcohol or drug abuse issues."

Excellent points! Sad, but very true.
Did I mention what a relief it will be when Ms. Maddow can put the"Kabash" on those darn tea baggers? disbelief

Date: Thu Apr 16 5:19 AM, 2009

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Incidentally -- did you see where McCain's daughter said there need to be more Gay republicans? I thought that was startlingly progressive of her. Funny thing is, I suspect they're already got plenty of members -- they just need to unlock the closet doors. Anyway, here's the NYT piece:

I think many that are gay and were with them are leaving. Glen Beck was using the gay marriage disgust button the other day when he was calling the faithful to stand up against all. Right after Iowa. He evoked the states name many times and marriage without really saying gay. I'm sure all listening got it. I have heard plenty of underpinnings regarding the tea party people around here, one being of an anti gay nature, and, that keeps me closed and, unable to study what the intent is along the lines of taxes. All I know of it is that Neal Boortz is heavy on board now after mocking them and, pushing the fair tax. And, Fox, which is a huge turn around for him. Gator

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

BoxDog wrote:

... But the question I would ask is, are you implying there are sheeple of sorts being guided to these tea parties by Fox? Your friends, neighbors, coworkers, family? Or are they actors staging this media production? If so, how? Is everything hunky dory wherever you are? From where I stand the Trillion Dollar Man and the Congress that owns him may want to start looking ahead, to other careers. Just as the midterm gop did in 2006. It should come as absolutely no surprise when they're all sent packing.

I read an interesting op-ed piece in the NYT the other day you might find interesting. It's admittedly partisan, but I think there are some good points made.

Incidentally -- did you see where McCain's daughter said there need to be more Gay republicans? I thought that was startlingly progressive of her. Funny thing is, I suspect they're already got plenty of members -- they just need to unlock the closet doors. Anyway, here's the NYT piece:

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: April 12, 2009

This is a column about Republicans and Im not sure I should even be writing it.

Todays G.O.P. is, after all, very much a minority party. It retains some limited ability to obstruct the Democrats, but has no ability to make or even significantly shape policy.

Beyond that, Republicans have become embarrassing to watch. And it doesnt feel right to make fun of crazy people. Better, perhaps, to focus on the real policy debates, which are all among Democrats.

But heres the thing: the G.O.P. looked as crazy 10 or 15 years ago as it does now. That didnt stop Republicans from taking control of both Congress and the White House. And they could return to power if the Democrats stumble. So it behooves us to look closely at the state of what is, after all, one of our nations two great political parties.

One way to get a good sense of the current state of the G.O.P., and also to see how little has really changed, is to look at the tea parties that have been held in a number of places already, and will be held across the country on Wednesday. These parties antitaxation demonstrations that are supposed to evoke the memory of the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution have been the subject of considerable mockery, and rightly so.

But everything that critics mock about these parties has long been standard practice within the Republican Party.

Thus, President Obama is being called a socialist who seeks to destroy capitalism. Why? Because he wants to raise the tax rate on the highest-income Americans back to, um, about 10 percentage points less than it was for most of the Reagan administration. Bizarre.

But the charge of socialism is being thrown around only because liberal doesnt seem to carry the punch it used to. And if you go back just a few years, you find top Republican figures making equally bizarre claims about what liberals were up to. Remember when Karl Rove declared that liberals wanted to offer therapy and understanding to the 9/11 terrorists?

Then there are the claims made at some recent tea-party events that Mr. Obama wasnt born in America, which follow on earlier claims that he is a secret Muslim. Crazy stuff but nowhere near as crazy as the claims, during the last Democratic administration, that the Clintons were murderers, claims that were supported by a campaign of innuendo on the part of big-league conservative media outlets and figures, especially Rush Limbaugh.

Speaking of Mr. Limbaugh: the most impressive thing about his role right now is the fealty he is able to demand from the rest of the right. The abject apologies he has extracted from Republican politicians who briefly dared to criticize him have been right out of Stalinist show trials. But while its new to have a talk-radio host in that role, ferocious party discipline has been the norm since the 1990s, when Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, became known as The Hammer in part because of the way he took political retribution on opponents.

Going back to those tea parties, Mr. DeLay, a fierce opponent of the theory of evolution he famously suggested that the teaching of evolution led to the Columbine school massacre also foreshadowed the denunciations of evolution that have emerged at some of the parties.

Last but not least: it turns out that the tea parties dont represent a spontaneous outpouring of public sentiment. Theyre AstroTurf (fake grass roots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects. In particular, a key role is being played by FreedomWorks, an organization run by Richard Armey, the former House majority leader, and supported by the usual group of right-wing billionaires. And the parties are, of course, being promoted heavily by Fox News.

But thats nothing new, and AstroTurf has worked well for Republicans in the past. The most notable example was the spontaneous riot back in 2000 actually orchestrated by G.O.P. strategists that shut down the presidential vote recount in Floridas Miami-Dade County.

So whats the implication of the fact that Republicans are refusing to grow up, the fact that they are still behaving the same way they did when history seemed to be on their side? Id say that its good for Democrats, at least in the short run but its bad for the country.

For now, the Obama administration gains a substantial advantage from the fact that it has no credible opposition, especially on economic policy, where the Republicans seem particularly clueless.

But as I said, the G.O.P. remains one of Americas great parties, and events could still put that party back in power. We can only hope that Republicans have moved on by the time that happens. "

(end of article)

__________________

Psych Lit · Guru

BoxDog wrote:

I opted to contribute mainly between the lines above. It seemed an easier way to approach this matter. But the question I would ask is, are you implying there are sheeple of sorts being guided to these tea parties by Fox? Your friends, neighbors, coworkers, family? Or are they actors staging this media production? If so, how? Is everything hunky dory wherever you are? From where I stand the Trillion Dollar Man and the Congress that owns him may want to start looking ahead, to other careers. Just as the midterm gop did in 2006. It should come as absolutely no surprise when they're all sent packing.

heres what i find difficult. since the inauguration there has been a push to block any kind of action deemed democratic and i think people are so sick of the partisan political crud. this is the underlying feeling that causes everyone to throw the bums out. and i include a lot of dems in that throw out. they arent feeling the vibe of america. nobody is happy about this spending plan but those who really understand what is going on and are in large part responsible for creating the mess seem to feel that this is necessary. id like to see a lot of heads roll here. id like to see many of those bankers in jail or at least investigated. i doubt it will happen tho

Date: Wed Apr 15 7:43 PM, 2009

BoxDog wrote:

Look, the fact is he won. It was NOT a landslide, defined as 400 electoral votes or more, it was a popular win of 51% to 47% EVEN with the drunken, unemployed, homeless, being corraled like breeder dogs to register their vote, BD

Who once were the people you speak of? Gator

"Soldiers come home to families that do not understand the changes in personality, mental ability or the inability to re-integrate into civilian life.As a result, these former soldiers turn to abuses, experience failed relationships and become too stressed for normal interaction.The result is that they begin wandering in an effort to burn energy and get to sleep.

97% of homeless veterans are male and the majority of them come from challenging backgrounds, are single, poor, older and educated.Half of the homeless veterans are African-American or Hispanic.More than 70% have alcohol or drug abuse issues."

Date: Wed Apr 15 7:23 PM, 2009

BoxDog wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

With all due respect this is not an article, but an opinion from a blog. The source is similar, though opposite, to what the finger pointer is accusimg Fox of. Huffington Post is an online BLOG. BD

Piece of nonfictional writing on a specific topic, identified by its title and often by its author(s), and published with other such literary works.

Calling it an article works for me. Gator

AlphaOmega · Member

If anyone's celebrating "Tea-Bagging" send em to me. I love tea! biggrin

BoxDog · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

nesea wrote:

According to the video whistle blower didn't work for them because it is not illegal for network news to skew the news in whatever direction they desire .. in other words, the news does not have to be factual. And since they are under no burden to report the facts, there is in essence no whistle to blow.

and how scary is that in the world of all murdoch news? i am glad that they got that info out there and wonder what happened to them personally? i wonder if the big guns sued them or if they are able to get employment in other news orgs?

I've been wondering about them also. How many others like them that really do it all for us. With all the Tea Parties happening today I though I would leave this article on the fair and balanced (gag). Those cultly following them have me scared more than taint in my milk. My sisters included. Gator
With all due respect this is not an article, but an opinion from a blog. The source is similar, though opposite, to what the finger pointer is accusimg Fox of. Huffington Post is an online BLOG. BD
Talk to any political organizer and they'll tell you the hardest part about pulling off a successful protest rally is building a big enough crowd for the press to show up and cover the festivities. As tax day approaches, conservatives planning anti-Obama "tea party" demonstrations across the country have found a way around this once-daunting organizer's dilemma: Fox News.
That's right. Despite repeatedly claiming its coverage is "fair and balanced," despite its attacks on anyone who dares claim or imply the cable outlet tilts to the right, despite encouraging viewers to "say 'no' to biased media," Fox News has frequently aired segments imploring its audience to get involved with tea-party protests across the country -- protests the "news" network has described as mainly a response to President Obama's economic policies.
Organizers of these tea-party protests have no bigger cheerleader (or crowd-builder, for that matter) than Fox News, which has provided attendance and organizing information for the events on air and online dozens of times. You name it, they've likely done it. Fox has offered viewers and readers such vital organizing information as protest dates and locations and addresses of websites where people can learn more. It has even posted information and publicity material for the events on its own website. Tea-party planners are now using the planned attendance of Fox News hosts to promote their protests and listing Fox News contributors as "Tea Party Sponsor[s]" on their website.
You see, Fox News hosts Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto, and Greta Van Susteren are all scheduled to broadcast live from tea parties in different cities across the country, and they've wasted little time in diligently working to boost attendance levels for the April 15 events.
On his Fox program, Hannity has told his viewers, "And don't forget, you can log on to our website to get all the details one week from tomorrow, our special, 'Tax Day Tea Party' show. You can attend. It's live. It's in Atlanta." Cavuto struck the same note, telling his audience, "By the way, this tea party movement that's going against largesse, it is growing. And folks are fed up with out-of-control spending. To that end, we are going to be broadcasting live from one of the biggest of these rallies on April 15, Tax Day. We are at California's state capitol in Sacramento. This is the epicenter of this tax revolt beast, if you will." Buried under the fault line of this "epicenter"? Cavuto's integrity.
For his part, Beck, Fox's conspiracy-theorist-in-chief, managed to escape his "doom room" -- Beck's words -- where he regularly hosts survivalist fringe characters prophesying our impending demise as a nation, long enough to encourage his viewers to come "[c]elebrate with Fox News" at any of four "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."
It's sounding more and more like a nerdy third-grader begging classmates to show up for his birthday party: "Come on, guys! There's gonna be pizza and a clown -- you've gotta come!"
Now this fascinates me. If this doesn't look and feel exactly like Obamas entire campaign blitzing, internet, texting, blogging, ACORN, show up for America or else. And that's right from the days he was neck and neck with HRC through the general election. Look, the fact is he won. It was NOT a landslide, defined as 400 electoral votes or more, it was a popular win of 51% to 47% EVEN with the drunken, unemployed, homeless, being corraled like breeder dogs to register their vote, this is NOT a news article, and Obama is NOT an innocent bystander in this. Karl Frsch, is a blogger. BD

In all seriousness, it's one thing for a news outlet to cover a political protest -- that's pretty logical. It's quite another for a news outlet to repeatedly encourage its viewers to attend a political protest. Far from practicing legitimate journalism, it's blatantly and unabashedly political.
Beck isn't just helping with turnout. Discussing his participation in the upcoming protest at the Alamo in San Antonio on his syndicated radio program, Beck announced, "I'm going to do a fundraiser for them" to help defray costs. "So you can come and you can have lunch with me. ... I don't know any of the details, but I've heard it's like $500 a plate or something like that." I'm guessing they won't be serving pizza with a price tag clocking in at 500 bones per ticket. The clown, on the other hand? I'm told Beck makes amazing balloon animals.
At this point, Fox News might as well retire its worn-out "we report, you decide" slogan in favor of something more accurate and timely. Perhaps "we incite, then report; rinse and repeat" would do the trick.
Taking all of this into consideration, it's logical for people to be upset over the horrible state of affairs at Fox these days. Some might even be inclined to blame Beck, Hannity, and the rest of their right-wing broadcasting colleagues, but they should resist such temptation. You see, it really isn't their fault at all.
They are simply fulfilling the charge of their boss, Fox News senior vice president Bill Shine, who, in an interview last month with National Public Radio, described the conservative cable network as "the voice of opposition on some issues." Indeed.
At least someone's finally being honest at Fox. Now, if that's not a reason to party, I don't know what is.
Karl Frisch is a Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog, research, and information center based in Washington, D.C. Frisch also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email.
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I opted to contribute mainly between the lines above. It seemed an easier way to approach this matter. But the question I would ask is, are you implying there are sheeple of sorts being guided to these tea parties by Fox? Your friends, neighbors, coworkers, family? Or are they actors staging this media production? If so, how? Is everything hunky dory wherever you are? From where I stand the Trillion Dollar Man and the Congress that owns him may want to start looking ahead, to other careers. Just as the midterm gop did in 2006. It should come as absolutely no surprise when they're all sent packing.

Date: Wed Apr 15 2:11 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

nesea wrote:

According to the video whistle blower didn't work for them because it is not illegal for network news to skew the news in whatever direction they desire .. in other words, the news does not have to be factual. And since they are under no burden to report the facts, there is in essence no whistle to blow.

and how scary is that in the world of all murdoch news? i am glad that they got that info out there and wonder what happened to them personally? i wonder if the big guns sued them or if they are able to get employment in other news orgs?

I've been wondering about them also. How many others like them that really do it all for us. With all the Tea Parties happening today I though I would leave this article on the fair and balanced (gag). Those cultly following them have me scared more than taint in my milk. My sisters included. Gator

Talk to any political organizer and they'll tell you the hardest part about pulling off a successful protest rally is building a big enough crowd for the press to show up and cover the festivities. As tax day approaches, conservatives planning anti-Obama "tea party" demonstrations across the country have found a way around this once-daunting organizer's dilemma: Fox News.

That's right. Despite repeatedly claiming its coverage is "fair and balanced," despite its attacks on anyone who dares claim or imply the cable outlet tilts to the right, despite encouraging viewers to "say 'no' to biased media," Fox News has frequently aired segments imploring its audience to get involved with tea-party protests across the country -- protests the "news" network has described as mainly a response to President Obama's economic policies.

Organizers of these tea-party protests have no bigger cheerleader (or crowd-builder, for that matter) than Fox News, which has provided attendance and organizing information for the events on air and online dozens of times. You name it, they've likely done it. Fox has offered viewers and readers such vital organizing information as protest dates and locations and addresses of websites where people can learn more. It has even posted information and publicity material for the events on its own website. Tea-party planners are now using the planned attendance of Fox News hosts to promote their protests and listing Fox News contributors as "Tea Party Sponsor[s]" on their website.

You see, Fox News hosts Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto, and Greta Van Susteren are all scheduled to broadcast live from tea parties in different cities across the country, and they've wasted little time in diligently working to boost attendance levels for the April 15 events.

On his Fox program, Hannity has told his viewers, "And don't forget, you can log on to our website to get all the details one week from tomorrow, our special, 'Tax Day Tea Party' show. You can attend. It's live. It's in Atlanta." Cavuto struck the same note, telling his audience, "By the way, this tea party movement that's going against largesse, it is growing. And folks are fed up with out-of-control spending. To that end, we are going to be broadcasting live from one of the biggest of these rallies on April 15, Tax Day. We are at California's state capitol in Sacramento. This is the epicenter of this tax revolt beast, if you will." Buried under the fault line of this "epicenter"? Cavuto's integrity.

For his part, Beck, Fox's conspiracy-theorist-in-chief, managed to escape his "doom room" -- Beck's words -- where he regularly hosts survivalist fringe characters prophesying our impending demise as a nation, long enough to encourage his viewers to come "[c]elebrate with Fox News" at any of four "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."

It's sounding more and more like a nerdy third-grader begging classmates to show up for his birthday party: "Come on, guys! There's gonna be pizza and a clown -- you've gotta come!"

In all seriousness, it's one thing for a news outlet to cover a political protest -- that's pretty logical. It's quite another for a news outlet to repeatedly encourage its viewers to attend a political protest. Far from practicing legitimate journalism, it's blatantly and unabashedly political.

Beck isn't just helping with turnout. Discussing his participation in the upcoming protest at the Alamo in San Antonio on his syndicated radio program, Beck announced, "I'm going to do a fundraiser for them" to help defray costs. "So you can come and you can have lunch with me. ... I don't know any of the details, but I've heard it's like $500 a plate or something like that." I'm guessing they won't be serving pizza with a price tag clocking in at 500 bones per ticket. The clown, on the other hand? I'm told Beck makes amazing balloon animals.

At this point, Fox News might as well retire its worn-out "we report, you decide" slogan in favor of something more accurate and timely. Perhaps "we incite, then report; rinse and repeat" would do the trick.

Taking all of this into consideration, it's logical for people to be upset over the horrible state of affairs at Fox these days. Some might even be inclined to blame Beck, Hannity, and the rest of their right-wing broadcasting colleagues, but they should resist such temptation. You see, it really isn't their fault at all.

They are simply fulfilling the charge of their boss, Fox News senior vice president Bill Shine, who, in an interview last month with National Public Radio, described the conservative cable network as "the voice of opposition on some issues." Indeed.

At least someone's finally being honest at Fox. Now, if that's not a reason to party, I don't know what is.

Karl Frisch is a Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog, research, and information center based in Washington, D.C. Frisch also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email.

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Date: Wed Apr 15 1:08 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

A

they published the water report in the newspaper the other day. the lead count was 12 and that was acceptable.. thats pretty scary. acceptable?

I looked. I you mean ppb, the CDC list 15. Hopefully you do not have lead pipes within your home. I'm guessing that is from point of entry back. From the CDC on how to reduce lead.
What can I do to reduce or eliminate lead in my tap water?

If your tap water contains lead at levels exceeding EPAs action level of 15 ppb, you should take action to minimize your exposure to the lead in the water.

You should begin by asking your water authority this question:
1. Does my water have lead in it above EPAs action level of 15 parts per billion (ppb)?

If the answer is no, your water does not contain lead at current levels of concern.

If the answer is yes, also ask the next question:

2. Does the service pipe at the street (header pipe) have lead in it?

This information is very important. It determines which of the next two actions (A or B) you should follow to protect your households health.
A) If the pipe in the street (header pipe) does NOT have lead, the lead in your tap water may be coming from fixtures, pipes, or elsewhere inside your home.

Until you eliminate the source, you should take the following steps any time you wish to use tap water for drinking or cooking, especially when the water has been off and sitting in the pipes for more than 6 hours:

a. Before using any tap water for drinking or cooking, flush your water system by running the kitchen tap (or any other tap you take drinking or cooking water from) on COLDfor 12 minutes;

b. Then, fill a clean container(s) with water from this tap. This water will be suitable for drinking, cooking, preparation of baby formula, or other consumption. To conserve water, collect multiple containers of water at once (after you have fully flushed the water from the tap as described).

B) If the pipe at the street (header pipe) DOES contain lead, lead in the tap water may be coming from that pipe or connected pipes (it may also be coming from sources inside your home).

Until the lead source is eliminated, you should take the following steps any time you wish to use tap water for drinking or cooking, especially when the water has been off and sitting in the pipes for more than 6 hours. Please note that additional flushing is necessary:

a. Before using any tap water for drinking or cooking, run high-volume taps (such as your shower) on COLD for 5 minutes or more;

b. Then, run the kitchen tap on COLD for 12 additional minutes;

c. Fill a clean container(s) with water from this tap. This water will be suitable for drinking, cooking, preparation of baby formula, or other consumption. To conserve water, collect multiple containers of water at once (after you have fully flushed the water from the tap as described).
2. In all situations, drink or cook only with water that comes out of the tap cold. Water that comes out of the tap warm or hot can contain much higher levels of lead. Boiling this water will NOT reduce the amount of lead in your water.
3. You can also reduce or eliminate your exposure to lead in drinking water by consuming only bottled water or water from a filtration system that has been certified by an independent testing organization to reduce or eliminate lead. See resources below.
4. Children and pregnant women are especially vulnerable to the effects of lead exposure. Therefore, for homes with children or pregnant women and with water lead levels exceeding EPAs action level of 15 ppb, CDC recommends using only bottled water for cooking, drinking, and baby formula preparation. Because most bottled water does not contain fluoride, a fluoride supplement may be necessary.
Also, be aware that some bottled waters have not been tested and may not be appropriate for consumption. Contact independent testing organizations that certify bottled water. See resources below.
5. Make sure that repairs to copper pipes do not use lead solder.
If my water has high lead levels, is it safe to take a bath or shower?
Yes, bathing and showering should be safe for you and your children, even if the water contains lead over EPAs action level. Human skin does not absorb lead in water.
This information applies to most situations and to a large majority of the population, but individual circumstances may vary. Some situations, such as cases involving highly corrosive water, may require additional recommendations or more stringent actions. At all times, your local water authority remains your first source for testing and identifying lead contamination in your tap water. Many public water authorities have Web sites that include data on drinking water quality, including results of lead testing. Links to such data can be found at the following EPA Web site: http://www.epa.gov/safewater/dwinfo.htm.

Date: Wed Apr 15 11:22 AM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I hear ya about the soy. It's a good thing to wonder where that glass of milk and berries come from. 100 % organic is more expensive but, I'd rather have my milk be it and, come from one that not only is but, practices humane treatment of it's cows. It taste better too. After 2 years on 100 % organic (although pasturized) I can taste the chemicals when I slip and, have the other that makes you wonder. Same with drinking water from plastic bottles after having had my Sigg bottle for a year now. I gave up my dish tv and apply that toward healthier eating. And, especially glad to be rid of Fox in my home after your post;) I want to join something along the lines of community supported agriculture which seems to suit me more than a co op situation. I am going to hord heirloom seeds:) I wonder if that rubbery plastic they put on the cows teet when milking is leeching into the milk. LOL Gator .........................our bodies our selves

they published the water report in the newspaper the other day. the lead count was 12 and that was acceptable.. thats pretty scary. acceptable?

Lead pipes? Is that a high level? How is it gauged? I have spring water from a well and, have not tested it in years and, really should. I use one of those simple stage 3 PUR filters that you can screw on the faucet. It says it reduces lead but, how much is un clear. Gator

Psych Lit · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

I hear ya about the soy. It's a good thing to wonder where that glass of milk and berries come from. 100 % organic is more expensive but, I'd rather have my milk be it and, come from one that not only is but, practices humane treatment of it's cows. It taste better too. After 2 years on 100 % organic (although pasturized) I can taste the chemicals when I slip and, have the other that makes you wonder. Same with drinking water from plastic bottles after having had my Sigg bottle for a year now. I gave up my dish tv and apply that toward healthier eating. And, especially glad to be rid of Fox in my home after your post;) I want to join something along the lines of community supported agriculture which seems to suit me more than a co op situation. I am going to hord heirloom seeds:) I wonder if that rubbery plastic they put on the cows teet when milking is leeching into the milk. LOL Gator .........................our bodies our selves

they published the water report in the newspaper the other day. the lead count was 12 and that was acceptable.. thats pretty scary. acceptable?

Date: Tue Apr 14 8:29 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't get how whistle blower protection failed for them in the courts. No shock that Murdock came up in the piece. Isn't that the bigot that owns or did own AOL? Remember the epidemic regarding milk? A lot died and even more got sick. And, still are I am sure. Monsanto has been dumping here it seems forever and, has a big foot in Florida. I worked in a public research Lab for years that was mainly funded by Monsanto and, the head of the department would testify here and there favoring Monsanto for a handsome check. Like the guy on the video said regarding money:( Gator

and yesterday and today as i reached for the glass of milk and the container of berries all i could think of were pcbs. it would seem that the healthier ones eating habits are the more likely they are to run into these things. and soy? forget about it. im not going to go near that anymore. lol

I hear ya about the soy. It's a good thing to wonder where that glass of milk and berries come from. 100 % organic is more expensive but, I'd rather have my milk be it and, come from one that not only is but, practices humane treatment of it's cows. It taste better too. After 2 years on 100 % organic (although pasturized) I can taste the chemicals when I slip and, have the other that makes you wonder. Same with drinking water from plastic bottles after having had my Sigg bottle for a year now. I gave up my dish tv and apply that toward healthier eating. And, especially glad to be rid of Fox in my home after your post;) I want to join something along the lines of community supported agriculture which seems to suit me more than a co op situation. I am going to hord heirloom seeds:) I wonder if that rubbery plastic they put on the cows teet when milking is leeching into the milk. LOL Gator .........................our bodies our selves

Psych Lit · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

I don't get how whistle blower protection failed for them in the courts. No shock that Murdock came up in the piece. Isn't that the bigot that owns or did own AOL? Remember the epidemic regarding milk? A lot died and even more got sick. And, still are I am sure. Monsanto has been dumping here it seems forever and, has a big foot in Florida. I worked in a public research Lab for years that was mainly funded by Monsanto and, the head of the department would testify here and there favoring Monsanto for a handsome check. Like the guy on the video said regarding money:( Gator

and yesterday and today as i reached for the glass of milk and the container of berries all i could think of were pcbs. it would seem that the healthier ones eating habits are the more likely they are to run into these things. and soy? forget about it. im not going to go near that anymore. lol

Psych Lit · Guru

nesea wrote:

According to the video whistle blower didn't work for them because it is not illegal for network news to skew the news in whatever direction they desire .. in other words, the news does not have to be factual. And since they are under no burden to report the facts, there is in essence no whistle to blow.

and how scary is that in the world of all murdoch news? i am glad that they got that info out there and wonder what happened to them personally? i wonder if the big guns sued them or if they are able to get employment in other news orgs?

nesea · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

nesea wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't get how whistle blower protection failed for them in the courts. No shock that Murdock came up in the piece. Isn't that the bigot that owns or did own AOL? Remember the epidemic regarding milk? A lot died and even more got sick. And, still are I am sure. Monsanto has been dumping here it seems forever and, has a big foot in Florida. I worked in a public research Lab for years that was mainly funded by Monsanto and, the head of the department would testify here and there favoring Monsanto for a handsome check. Like the guy on the video said regarding money:( Gator

According to the video whistle blower didn't work for them because it is not illegal for network news to skew the news in whatever direction they desire .. in other words, the news does not have to be factual. And since they are under no burden to report the facts, there is in essence no whistle to blow.

nesea · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

OK I don't know the movie. And, sorry if I am missing a line drop or jokey but, it''s taken from church art IHC. The incorrect Greek spelling for Jesus. Now that I am saying you both probally know huh? Gator

no dropped line or inside joke .. just bad judgement on my part. I apologize. And do see the movie if you can, I think you would see similarities.

Date: Sun Apr 12 5:01 PM, 2009

"According to Order 81, paragraph 66 - [B], issued by L. Paul Bremer [CFR], the people in Iraq are now prohibited from saving seeds and may only plant seeds for their food from licensed, authorized U.S. distributors.
The paragraph states, "Farmers shall be prohibited from re-using seeds of protected varieties or any variety mentioned in items 1 and 2 of paragraph [C] of Article 14 of this chapter."
Written in massively intricate legalese, Order 81 directs the reader at Article 14, paragraph 2 [C] to paragraph [B] of Article 4, which states any variety that is different from any other known variety may be registered in any country and become a protected variety of seed - thus defaulting it into the "protected class" of seeds and prohibiting the Iraqis from reusing them the following season. Every year, the Iraqis must destroy any seed they have, and repurchase seeds from an authorized supplier, or face fines, penalties and/or jail time. "
Iraqis Can't Save Seed January 19, 2005

I'm not a happy American anymore:( Gator

Date: Sun Apr 12 4:48 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

nesea wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a documentary (Marie-Monique Robins) called The World According to Monsanto and, I was hoping to re make my point on the dangers of genetically altered crops by asking you all to take the time to watch it. It can be viewed on many sites on line and you tube has it in 10 parts as well. There is a woman from India and, her name is Vita something......I can't think of her name right now..........that takes the point further about how patents on seeds give control of food sources to a corporation that has done great damage to the world. Remember PCB's ? These seeds require mass sprayings and, roundup is the baby of Monsanto as well. For years they touted it as biodegradable knowing full well the lies.The way we are heading will not solve the worlds hunger but, is in fact already making it worse. Please learn about GM and, learn just how many foods (General Mills for example) are loaded with them. Most countries have a ban on them. Learn wat prominant elected officials are in the pockets of Monsanto. I know it is not even Sunday yet but, I got to preach. Have a great holiday Ladies. Gator.

jesus h. christ gator ...... I'm really quiet embarrassed to admit I had no idea regarding the extent of these issues and Monsanto's involvement. I've watched 5 of the segments on you tube and to me anyway ... it's very reminiscent of the movie "Michael Clayton" ... so much so that visions of Tilda Swinton practicing her contrived speech popped into my head the moment one of the female Monsanto attorneys opened her mouth .....
Is there any hope of change in sight ? I'm fairly confident that firing off a letter to the fda or Monsanto won't result in anything ... I'm not sure how to avoid modified food stuffs ... so what's left for us to do?

what does the h. stand for anyways ??

-- Edited by nesea on Sunday 12th of April 2009 07:27:36 AM

http://truefoodnow.org/

This sites home page has a March article with a letter to the USDA and, attached to that letter all those involved. Maybe one suits your fancy to attach yourself to. I thnk Autism groups have done huge work on this. They all lend great information and tips to live by. I agree a letter to the FDA would do no good. That revolving door so applies to them. They not only screw us with our food stuff but, medicines as well. I wish Obama would enact similar as he did with his staff to not be able to leave his administration and go right to lobbying after. The intermingling of our Government employees like the doc shows makes me sick and, distrustful of any of them. You know Hillary once was well positioned with Monsanto? That tibit really disheartened me. Gator

i got sidetracked trying to look up hillarys involvement with monsanto. instead i saw this clip by the former investigative team of a fox news outlet in florida. pretty revealing both to the pressure on these news orgs and the fox news idea of news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axU9ngbTxKw

I don't get how whistle blower protection failed for them in the courts. No shock that Murdock came up in the piece. Isn't that the bigot that owns or did own AOL? Remember the epidemic regarding milk? A lot died and even more got sick. And, still are I am sure. Monsanto has been dumping here it seems forever and, has a big foot in Florida. I worked in a public research Lab for years that was mainly funded by Monsanto and, the head of the department would testify here and there favoring Monsanto for a handsome check. Like the guy on the video said regarding money:( Gator

Psych Lit · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

nesea wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a documentary (Marie-Monique Robins) called The World According to Monsanto and, I was hoping to re make my point on the dangers of genetically altered crops by asking you all to take the time to watch it. It can be viewed on many sites on line and you tube has it in 10 parts as well. There is a woman from India and, her name is Vita something......I can't think of her name right now..........that takes the point further about how patents on seeds give control of food sources to a corporation that has done great damage to the world. Remember PCB's ? These seeds require mass sprayings and, roundup is the baby of Monsanto as well. For years they touted it as biodegradable knowing full well the lies.The way we are heading will not solve the worlds hunger but, is in fact already making it worse. Please learn about GM and, learn just how many foods (General Mills for example) are loaded with them. Most countries have a ban on them. Learn wat prominant elected officials are in the pockets of Monsanto. I know it is not even Sunday yet but, I got to preach. Have a great holiday Ladies. Gator.

jesus h. christ gator ...... I'm really quiet embarrassed to admit I had no idea regarding the extent of these issues and Monsanto's involvement. I've watched 5 of the segments on you tube and to me anyway ... it's very reminiscent of the movie "Michael Clayton" ... so much so that visions of Tilda Swinton practicing her contrived speech popped into my head the moment one of the female Monsanto attorneys opened her mouth .....
Is there any hope of change in sight ? I'm fairly confident that firing off a letter to the fda or Monsanto won't result in anything ... I'm not sure how to avoid modified food stuffs ... so what's left for us to do?

what does the h. stand for anyways ??

-- Edited by nesea on Sunday 12th of April 2009 07:27:36 AM

http://truefoodnow.org/

This sites home page has a March article with a letter to the USDA and, attached to that letter all those involved. Maybe one suits your fancy to attach yourself to. I thnk Autism groups have done huge work on this. They all lend great information and tips to live by. I agree a letter to the FDA would do no good. That revolving door so applies to them. They not only screw us with our food stuff but, medicines as well. I wish Obama would enact similar as he did with his staff to not be able to leave his administration and go right to lobbying after. The intermingling of our Government employees like the doc shows makes me sick and, distrustful of any of them. You know Hillary once was well positioned with Monsanto? That tibit really disheartened me. Gator

i got sidetracked trying to look up hillarys involvement with monsanto. instead i saw this clip by the former investigative team of a fox news outlet in florida. pretty revealing both to the pressure on these news orgs and the fox news idea of news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axU9ngbTxKw