Where Everybody Knows You're Numb

Date: Thu Jan 8 9:44 AM, 2009

RE: words

Psych Lit · Guru

BoxDog wrote:

LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

uh huh... this does make the battery experience sound like a lot more fun1

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:
I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08
LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

An X3? Here's a picture of where the battery is - under the load floor, whatever that is. looks like it could be in the back.

http://suvs.about.com/od/bm1/ig/2007-BMW-X3-3-0si/X3-Battery-Compartment.htm

X3's battery is in a compartment beneath the load floor, probably a good location for mass centralization.....<<<from that link :)

As the ITouch makes available an online "Enterprise Deployment Manual". Not, "instruction pamphlet". The days of a good old jump in the back of an suv to the sounds of a radio are long gone.

Yikes. "Mass centralization" has a slightly Orwellian ring to it, doncha think?

Date: Thu Jan 8 7:42 AM, 2009

MyCat8it wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:
I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08
LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

An X3? Here's a picture of where the battery is - under the load floor, whatever that is. looks like it could be in the back.

http://suvs.about.com/od/bm1/ig/2007-BMW-X3-3-0si/X3-Battery-Compartment.htm

X3's battery is in a compartment beneath the load floor, probably a good location for mass centralization.....<<<from that link :)

As the ITouch makes available an online "Enterprise Deployment Manual". Not, "instruction pamphlet". The days of a good old jump in the back of an suv to the sounds of a radio are long gone.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

BoxDog wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery?

"push"

<just "pushed" my van back into the driveway a couple of weeks ago, which was no easy feat, given the required angles, and slopes in the road.>

I feel for ya.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 07:06, 2009-01-07
I'll take car battery for a hundred nightowl! I said "bus". Greatfully the car was already in the drive. Presumably it will still be there after work to deal with. My only friend in my immediate neighborhood has BMW and apparently they think its cute to "HIDE" the battery in those. At least she'll be around later to drive me to Auto Zone or something.

I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08
LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

Now ... who is it, exactly, about whom we're speaking here??

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

MyCat8it wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:
I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08
LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

An X3? Here's a picture of where the battery is - under the load floor, whatever that is. looks like it could be in the back.

http://suvs.about.com/od/bm1/ig/2007-BMW-X3-3-0si/X3-Battery-Compartment.htm

Yeah, I'd agree. Looks for sure like it's in the "way-back" part, where, on my older toyo van, the spare tire lives. (In my van, the battery is under the floor right behind the driver's seat. Took me a week to find out where the engine, radiator, etc. were, though. Never thought to look under the driver's seat. I felt pretty dumb, until I was at the emissions testing place, right after I bought it, and they couldn't find it either. They finally just wrote "inaccessible" and gave me a pass. The exterior front is a wreck from people trying to "pop" a hood that isn't there. The bad news, of course, is in the summer, without AC, that driver's seat can be pretty toasty, since you're essentially sitting on top of the engine.)

MyCat8it · Senior Member

BoxDog wrote:

MyCat8it wrote:
I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08
LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

An X3? Here's a picture of where the battery is - under the load floor, whatever that is. looks like it could be in the back.

http://suvs.about.com/od/bm1/ig/2007-BMW-X3-3-0si/X3-Battery-Compartment.htm

BoxDog · Guru

MyCat8it wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery?

"push"

<just "pushed" my van back into the driveway a couple of weeks ago, which was no easy feat, given the required angles, and slopes in the road.>

I feel for ya.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 07:06, 2009-01-07
I'll take car battery for a hundred nightowl! I said "bus". Greatfully the car was already in the drive. Presumably it will still be there after work to deal with. My only friend in my immediate neighborhood has BMW and apparently they think its cute to "HIDE" the battery in those. At least she'll be around later to drive me to Auto Zone or something.

I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08

LOL. She's got the 2007 SUV. It must have come with a virtual manual as well. I have no idea, especially over the phone, on how to advise her. But I can't wait to poke around under her hood. I do think you're right about BMW's subtle hint. Elitists.

MyCat8it · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery?

"push"

<just "pushed" my van back into the driveway a couple of weeks ago, which was no easy feat, given the required angles, and slopes in the road.>

I feel for ya.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 07:06, 2009-01-07
I'll take car battery for a hundred nightowl! I said "bus". Greatfully the car was already in the drive. Presumably it will still be there after work to deal with. My only friend in my immediate neighborhood has BMW and apparently they think its cute to "HIDE" the battery in those. At least she'll be around later to drive me to Auto Zone or something.

I originally posted that the battery is in the wheel well. Apparently, that's not so.

LOL...depending on the model and year, it could be under the back seat. I think BMW is saying, "don't use our battery to jump another car".

-- Edited by MyCat8it at 05:20, 2009-01-08

Date: Wed Jan 7 8:49 AM, 2009

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

BoxDog wrote:

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery?

"push"

<just "pushed" my van back into the driveway a couple of weeks ago, which was no easy feat, given the required angles, and slopes in the road.>

I feel for ya.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 07:06, 2009-01-07

I'll take

car battery for a hundred nightowl! I said "bus". Greatfully the car was already in the drive. Presumably it will still be there after work to deal with. My only friend in my immediate neighborhood has BMW and apparently they think its cute to "HIDE" the battery in those. At least she'll be around later to drive me to Auto Zone or something.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

BoxDog wrote:

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery?

"push"

<just "pushed" my van back into the driveway a couple of weeks ago, which was no easy feat, given the required angles, and slopes in the road.>

I feel for ya.

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 07:06, 2009-01-07

BoxDog · Guru

Nightowlhoot3 wrote:

Psych Lit wrote:

have you ever had the experience of falling in love with a word? it happens to me occasionally when im reading and find a seldom used word. ill stop reading and just absorb the word. especially if i like the way it rolls off the tongue or the way it fits so precisely into a sentence.

todays word love affair is the word

panegyric

its a beautiful word and it trips off the tongue nicely

or how about invidious

seems more melodious than snarky

or this one

nota bene

cant remember the last time i saw that one in print.

anyone else have a favorite word or two?

I'm not sure this is exactly on topic, but there is one word I mourn -- its fallen out of favor, and really, can no longer be used in polite society, although its origin and meaning are perfectly fine. It (the word) pre-date the word(s) which caused it to be out of favor by hundreds of years, and yet it (the word) has been lost us because of the subsequent word.

I guess it's on my mind because I was writing something either yesterday or the day before, and again, its use felt almost required, but I instead used miserly, or cheap, although really, they're (IMO) poor substitutes for the actual word, which begins with a nasal sound, had has a couple of soft plosives for emphasis.

Beyond that ... I enjoy making up words. :) I also am prone to bastardize several. (I know, for instance, "nevermind" isn't really a word, but it works for me. I rarely spell out "okay," preferring "OK" which really, isn't right at all inasmuch as it probably shouldn't have both letters capitalized.) I often substitute "Snottsdale" for "Scottsdale." I'm not sure when I began saying "absomently!" but there it sometimes is, although more often than not, it's "abso-freakin'-mently." I certainly cannot claim, nor would I ever attempt to, "yanno" or "dunno" as mine, but use them so often they have become "real" words for me. One I sorta did create was "hunh" (as far as I know, although nothing is truly original anymore) I was writing a play at the time -- and playwrights learn quickly to write not in proper English, but rather the way people actually speak, which is surprisingly difficult, at the outset for many, including me -- and "huh" was used, but I needed something to use in addition to that, to indicate a slightly different feeling, and so I said it out loud, sounded it out, and came up with "hunh." I've been using it ever since. Again: I can make no "claim" to the creation of the word; no doubt it existed prior to that day so many years ago, but I made it up for me, anyway, and distinctly remember so doing.

I do think the internet and text messaging are both sad innovations for those who do love words. I just can't bring myself to text "u R 2!" to someone, and will only go back and make it that if I need to trim letters, but it's painful for me. When I read from sites which encourage readers comments, I find myself wincing often, and cannot help but think that we are losing our love for language in part because it's become a cheap commodity, and is not often allowed full rein in our daily communications. "Dear Liar" is a readers theatre play comprised almost entirely of correspondence between GB Shaw and Mrs. Patrick Campbell. I doubt "I heart U" would have the same impact, but it doesn't matter, because no one really writes letters in snail mail any more, anyway, and so too often, that paper trail is lost us with the tapping of the "delete" button. In some ways, it seems words are dying daily before our very eyes. The only encouraging part is that after the eight year assault, we now have an incoming president who actually favors words and oratory, and so I am hopeful, there will be a resurgence of the appreciation of both. One of the reasons I first became enamored with politics was because as a small child I was allowed to stay up late and listen to speeches at political conventions, and the beauty and power of the words bowled me over. MLK was allowed to "do" that because he was a minister, and we often "allow" our ministers to speak in an elevated rhetoric. I know JFK's inaugural speech is most famous for the "ask not" line, but really, can you even begin to imagine GWB saying:

"...Now the trumpet summons us again -- not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need -- not as a call to battle, though embattled we are -- but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation" -- a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself."

Even his best speech writers knew words like that would ring false coming, excruciatingly, in a halting manner, from Shrub's lips. Obama? I can see it, actually.

But to get back on topic: I like (for one) "visceral." Never use it, but I like it. :)

What word comes to mind when you mourn the loss of a car battery? Coupled with being, up to that point, right on time for work? Yeah, if you would provide me with that word it will save my primal instinct to go potty mouth right now. I have a solar charger, can't find it. Haven't seen it in 2 years or so. Which means the sun hasn't either. Crapper.

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Psych Lit wrote:

have you ever had the experience of falling in love with a word? it happens to me occasionally when im reading and find a seldom used word. ill stop reading and just absorb the word. especially if i like the way it rolls off the tongue or the way it fits so precisely into a sentence.

todays word love affair is the word

panegyric

its a beautiful word and it trips off the tongue nicely

or how about invidious

seems more melodious than snarky

or this one

nota bene

cant remember the last time i saw that one in print.

anyone else have a favorite word or two?

I'm not sure this is exactly on topic, but there is one word I mourn -- its fallen out of favor, and really, can no longer be used in polite society, although its origin and meaning are perfectly fine. It (the word) pre-date the word(s) which caused it to be out of favor by hundreds of years, and yet it (the word) has been lost us because of the subsequent word.

I guess it's on my mind because I was writing something either yesterday or the day before, and again, its use felt almost required, but I instead used miserly, or cheap, although really, they're (IMO) poor substitutes for the actual word, which begins with a nasal sound, had has a couple of soft plosives for emphasis.

Beyond that ... I enjoy making up words. :) I also am prone to bastardize several. (I know, for instance, "nevermind" isn't really a word, but it works for me. I rarely spell out "okay," preferring "OK" which really, isn't right at all inasmuch as it probably shouldn't have both letters capitalized.) I often substitute "Snottsdale" for "Scottsdale." I'm not sure when I began saying "absomently!" but there it sometimes is, although more often than not, it's "abso-freakin'-mently." I certainly cannot claim, nor would I ever attempt to, "yanno" or "dunno" as mine, but use them so often they have become "real" words for me. One I sorta did create was "hunh" (as far as I know, although nothing is truly original anymore) I was writing a play at the time -- and playwrights learn quickly to write not in proper English, but rather the way people actually speak, which is surprisingly difficult, at the outset for many, including me -- and "huh" was used, but I needed something to use in addition to that, to indicate a slightly different feeling, and so I said it out loud, sounded it out, and came up with "hunh." I've been using it ever since. Again: I can make no "claim" to the creation of the word; no doubt it existed prior to that day so many years ago, but I made it up for me, anyway, and distinctly remember so doing.

I do think the internet and text messaging are both sad innovations for those who do love words. I just can't bring myself to text "u R 2!" to someone, and will only go back and make it that if I need to trim letters, but it's painful for me. When I read from sites which encourage readers comments, I find myself wincing often, and cannot help but think that we are losing our love for language in part because it's become a cheap commodity, and is not often allowed full rein in our daily communications. "Dear Liar" is a readers theatre play comprised almost entirely of correspondence between GB Shaw and Mrs. Patrick Campbell. I doubt "I heart U" would have the same impact, but it doesn't matter, because no one really writes letters in snail mail any more, anyway, and so too often, that paper trail is lost us with the tapping of the "delete" button. In some ways, it seems words are dying daily before our very eyes. The only encouraging part is that after the eight year assault, we now have an incoming president who actually favors words and oratory, and so I am hopeful, there will be a resurgence of the appreciation of both. One of the reasons I first became enamored with politics was because as a small child I was allowed to stay up late and listen to speeches at political conventions, and the beauty and power of the words bowled me over. MLK was allowed to "do" that because he was a minister, and we often "allow" our ministers to speak in an elevated rhetoric. I know JFK's inaugural speech is most famous for the "ask not" line, but really, can you even begin to imagine GWB saying:

"...Now the trumpet summons us again -- not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need -- not as a call to battle, though embattled we are -- but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation" -- a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself."

Even his best speech writers knew words like that would ring false coming, excruciatingly, in a halting manner, from Shrub's lips. Obama? I can see it, actually.

But to get back on topic: I like (for one) "visceral." Never use it, but I like it. :)

Psych Lit · Guru

have you ever had the experience of falling in love with a word? it happens to me occasionally when im reading and find a seldom used word. ill stop reading and just absorb the word. especially if i like the way it rolls off the tongue or the way it fits so precisely into a sentence.

todays word love affair is the word

panegyric

its a beautiful word and it trips off the tongue nicely

or how about invidious

seems more melodious than snarky

or this one

nota bene

cant remember the last time i saw that one in print.

anyone else have a favorite word or two?