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My Turn · Senior Member

RE: reality tv part two

My Turn · Senior Member

BoxDog wrote:

box dog:
Correction, 8 out of 10 times I have lacked interest. One time I half heartedly suggested you throw a shirt on your avatar for the winter. The other was to genuinely inquire as to how, in these times, anyone could possibly construct an ethics paper while professing abstinence from television and nearly all other MSM. "Blasted"? That's the onset of rewriting history. It begins with one willy nilly comment, such as that. And it turns into a perversion of the truth. It's a mediocre, passively lazy attempt to convince someone, maybe outside, maybe here, maybe yourself, that you are a victim. History is rewritten for two reasons, one is for power as an aggressor. The other is to gain power as a victim. They can be interchangeable, just not easy to pull off by an amateur.

FWIW, if in fact you are a big girl, as you say, the next words from your keyboard would not have been a means to solicit sympathy or attention in general from anyone. Because box dog blasted you.

If I wanted children I would have had my own. It's that simple. I'm not a coddler. Your "blasted" is my "demeanor". Period.

It's All Over But The Crying - Garbage

ps, this is a bit chilly, though still not a blast.

its all good..not looking for sympathy at all!! i actually thought your comment re: my avatar, was pretty cute!

and as far as the ethics and current events comment....i was not offended..it just is basically your style of posting...i call it blasted...if that offends you...sorry...did not mean to....how about speak your mind....that too is all good....but in the end i did receive a 96% on my paper...so i guess for the assignment given, current event following was not necessary....i simply followed instructions.....its all good.

BoxDog · Guru

My Turn wrote:

i have no problem what so ever if you wish to reply to a post of mine.....help yourself...i am a big girl, i can handle it.....shoot nine times out of 10 what i post gets blasted by box dog...so?....its fine..it is what it is and that is what boards are for...the free exchange of ideas and points of view.

My Turn wrote:

...i am a big girl, i can handle it.....shoot nine times out of 10 what i post gets blasted by box dog...so?....its fine..it is what it is and that is what boards are for...the free exchange of ideas and points of view.

box dog:
Correction, 8 out of 10 times I have lacked interest. One time I half heartedly suggested you throw a shirt on your avatar for the winter. The other was to genuinely inquire as to how, in these times, anyone could possibly construct an ethics paper while professing abstinence from television and nearly all other MSM. "Blasted"? That's the onset of rewriting history. It begins with one willy nilly comment, such as that. And it turns into a perversion of the truth. It's a mediocre, passively lazy attempt to convince someone, maybe outside, maybe here, maybe yourself, that you are a victim. History is rewritten for two reasons, one is for power as an aggressor. The other is to gain power as a victim. They can be interchangeable, just not easy to pull off by an amateur.

FWIW, if in fact you are a big girl, as you say, the next words from your keyboard would not have been a means to solicit sympathy or attention in general from anyone. Because box dog blasted you.

If I wanted children I would have had my own. It's that simple. I'm not a coddler. Your "blasted" is my "demeanor". Period.

It's All Over But The Crying - Garbage

ps, this is a bit chilly, though still not a blast.

My Turn · Senior Member

Psych Lit wrote:

so if we get to vote here im voting that we all do all possible to avoid those situations where we know our words might wound another.

i absolutely agree with this...i have no intention to wound anyone...i like this board and have continued to stay even while i have had the feeling that i was being ostracized. the past is the past and i have moved forward. i have respected the request to not contact another member here or in any other forum or venue and i simply wish to continue to be a reciprocally respected and contributing member which is why i stated i have been able to co-exist in the past and do not forsee a problem doing to in the future. i am soooo not interested in drama and games.

-- Edited by My Turn at 03:10, 2009-01-07

Psych Lit · Guru

My Turn wrote:

i enjoy this board very much and i am not here because of you. i am here without regard to the fact you are here. i dont see where we have been unable to co-exist in the past...nor do i see why or how we cant in the future. however, please understand that i am no longer obligated to live by your rules...

im gonna try and be brief here because the last thing i want to do is to triangulate this. one of the difficulties that happens for the others on a board when some of the members have a dispute is the avoiding of walking into a land mine embedded in a post. nobody wants to sit and analyze the possible implications of what seems innocent on the surface and yet might be something aimed at another which, if answered contributes to whatever was initially aimed at the other. that leaves people feeling as tho they are being manipulated into some unknowable scheme or something and can result in being disruptive for everyone on the board.

people are going to have disputes especially in the aftermath of a breakup. hearts break, people get hurt, but resolving those issues in this public format seems like one of those things that is at best ill advised and at worst comes across not so favorably to those involved and usually has the opposite result of what was initially desired by deepening the chasm.

theres no one i can think of who hasnt had their heart broken a time or three and so we all know that its a very difficult time but its a time made harder for healing and moving on if there are readily available opportunities to pick at the scab. so if we get to vote here im voting that we all do all possible to avoid those situations where we know our words might wound another.

My Turn · Senior Member

MyCat8it wrote:

I like this board a lot, also. I will stand counted as one who wishes you would leave.

However, it seems apparent that you intend to stay. I can't change it, and that's fine.

I would like to establish some basic ground rules if you and I are going to cohabitate here, so your girlfriend can stop sending me nasty messages on myspace, which I refuse to read.

___________________________________________

first off, if the person you are thinking of's name starts with a "C"...she is not my gf. period. i am sure you will find out who my gf is sooner or later cause one of your friends was already questioning her about who she is seeing....

I offer the following:

1.) I will not respond directly to any of your posts, if you will do the same with my posts. There are plenty of discussions here that can allow us to post thoughtful topics without directly addressing each other.
2.) Let us both agree that any personal information, details of any past relationship, regardless of how vague, be refrained from this board.
3.) I reserve the right to cry "foul" if #2 is violated. You of course, have the same privilege. May I suggest crying it here on the board, as opposed to having a friend contact me.
______________________________________________

it has already been stated that one of the unspoken rules are to reply to the post, not the poster.....(altho i do admit there have been a few rare times i did address someone in a post, but that was, if i remember correctly, to thank the person for their post.) i have in the past, do currently, and will in the future, respect that...most of your posts, i do not respond to...if they dont interest me and i have nothing to add, there is no reason for me to post a reply. i have no problem what so ever if you wish to reply to a post of mine.....help yourself...i am a big girl, i can handle it.....shoot nine times out of 10 what i post gets blasted by box dog...so?....its fine..it is what it is and that is what boards are for...the free exchange of ideas and points of view.

as far as your rule #2....i really feel that it is my decision whether i post personal information about me or if i post things about any of my past relationships....i never specify a person and please dont assume that you have been my only past relationship.

rule #3...i have nothing to do with anyone contacting you in any way shape or form...i dont want to know if anyone has contact with you nor do i ask anyone to send you any type of messages....if you have a problem with someone making inappropriate messages to you, i suggest you take that up with that person, because if it is who i think it is, you were the one who had the initial relationship with her. you made it clear back in october not to contact you in any way shape or form, and i have NOT...even when you have emailed me several times....please check your aol sent box...all emails you have sent to me have been deleted unread. this is the first and last time i will intentionally address you as a poster, in respect to your previous request that i do not contact you...almost forgot to add....as far as crying it out....there are no more tears here...

This place is one of the few places I frequent to unwind, read, enjoy the company of others, etc. I have no intention of leaving, but it's time you and I get to a point where we can co-exist on a board.

Do you agree?

i enjoy this board very much and i am not here because of you. i am here without regard to the fact you are here. i dont see where we have been unable to co-exist in the past...nor do i see why or how we cant in the future. however, please understand that i am no longer obligated to live by your rules...

MyCat8it · Senior Member

My Turn wrote:

excellant post nightowl...i really really like this board. i like the thoughtful, funny and intelligent posts. altho i am sure most here would like to see me leave, i like this board a lot...i used to be on another board a lot, one with probably 30 or so regular posters...but this one has become my favorite..your all's posts are way more thought provoking and interesting with significantly less posters...thanks for creating this...

I like this board a lot, also. I will stand counted as one who wishes you would leave.

However, it seems apparent that you intend to stay. I can't change it, and that's fine.

I would like to establish some basic ground rules if you and I are going to cohabitate here, so your girlfriend can stop sending me nasty messages on myspace, which I refuse to read.

I offer the following:

1.) I will not respond directly to any of your posts, if you will do the same with my posts. There are plenty of discussions here that can allow us to post thoughtful topics without directly addressing each other.
2.) Let us both agree that any personal information, details of any past relationship, regardless of how vague, be refrained from this board.
3.) I reserve the right to cry "foul" if #2 is violated. You of course, have the same privilege. May I suggest crying it here on the board, as opposed to having a friend contact me.

This place is one of the few places I frequent to unwind, read, enjoy the company of others, etc. I have no intention of leaving, but it's time you and I get to a point where we can co-exist on a board.

Do you agree?

Date: Tue Jan 6 9:41 AM, 2009

wrote:

This board serves one purpose. It's open to all comers, whether they wish to use a recognizable screen name, or not.
IMO? It's all good. :)

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 09:30, 2009-01-06

I just realized two things. First, when I'm distracted,or too tired to notice (from home) I sometimes post as "anonymous" simply because I forgot to sign in. Weird thing though is that NOW, at work, despite being awake alert and oriented and signed in, I STILL appear as anonymous. The nice thing about it all is that the element of paranoia and wtf? who did this? times are in the past. It's just me. Or some firewall or other security issue. bd (pinky swear, it's me!)

Date: Tue Jan 6 9:26 AM, 2009

My Turn wrote:

excellant post nightowl...i really really like this board. i like the thoughtful, funny and intelligent posts. altho i am sure most here would like to see me leave, i like this board a lot...i used to be on another board a lot, one with probably 30 or so regular posters...but this one has become my favorite..your all's posts are way more thought provoking and interesting with significantly less posters...thanks for creating this...

Thanks.
This board serves one purpose. It's open to all comers, whether they wish to use a recognizable screen name, or not. It's funny how things work out sometimes ... I put this board up initially because I was being gagged (no, not that kind -- the kind where they put duct tape over your mouth) on AOL. A lie was told about me, I SAID it was a lie, and that was turned over to AOL (the "real" AOL people) and my posting rights were suspended for my breach of conduct. That ain't right, and I wasn't going to allow those overseers to strong arm me that way.

I said a long time ago that I wasn't particularly invested in this board, and that remains so. It's here, and open to anyone, and yeah, I'll continue posting here, but my heart will remain on that other board which was also open to all (well, all lesbians) until it became an item of scrutiny and a distraction to other conversations happening elsewhere at the time. It was hard to turn that board private, but in retrospect, it's nice to have a place still where I know my words won't become ammunition for those who enjoy making cruel and/or catty remarks. The stuff I put out here? Not really the 'heart" stuff. I've learned the hard way to better protect that. So see?? Sometimes, when it seems people are doing you a disservice, and trying to cause trouble for you, really, they're just paving the way for expansion!

IMO? It's all good. :)

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 09:30, 2009-01-06

My Turn · Senior Member

excellant post nightowl...i really really like this board. i like the thoughtful, funny and intelligent posts. altho i am sure most here would like to see me leave, i like this board a lot...i used to be on another board a lot, one with probably 30 or so regular posters...but this one has become my favorite..your all's posts are way more thought provoking and interesting with significantly less posters...thanks for creating this...

Nightowlhoot3 · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
FWIW, I am about to be anonymous.

Naw, never to those who truly matter ... wink

Besides, I think you're our only "anonymous" poster at this point. LOL.
It's sorta funny, when you stop and think about it. Without things like those "pick a new one every day" AIM names and stuff that used to pop up on AOL boards, and without requiring "AOL NAME registration" on the boards that used to be "protected" (yeah, right) we had a couple of anonymous people here at first, but they seem to have all slipped away.

I wonder if this doesn't speak to a need, as human beings, to "be heard" as ourselves. This board has turned into an interesting little experiment, really, hasn't it. To date, not one post (or poster) has been "pulled" and really, there hasn't been hardly any angst at all. Ms Anony is free to come and go as she chooses here any time she wishes, and yet she's not come a callin' in months. Too much freedom, perhaps?

Have you noticed how we've all pretty much fallen right into the AOL terms of service "rules" without them being "rules" here at all? No one has said those things we used to have shoved down our throats by overbearing "hosts" (and Cat that NEVER included you) and yet we generally tend to do those things anyway. The one which first pops into my head is that "reply to the post, not the poster" thing. That always seemed a little silly to me, since I don't know that it's even possible when you're dealing with a group of women who have been posting together for years, but it seemed to be "encouraged" quite regularly. Even so, we don't "gossip" here, although nothing is stopping any of us from so doing except our own inclination. I think that's pretty cool. Hell, I think we're pretty cool. :)

I sorta like the thought that when left to our own devices, we're every bit as much apt to (for lack of a better phrase) "behave civilly" as not.

I do understand that my saying the above might read as a challenge to some, and encourage them to try to prove me wrong. smile

I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, I suspect it will find the same sort of resolution it did earlier, when this board was first built.

Everything is fluid, of course ... stuff changes, and one must adapt as that happens, but so far so good with us here, hey? No "overseers" to control our reading /writing experience here, no sudden disappearance of posts which once appeared and now no longer do, unless it is by our own hand in the "editing" mode. Heh. What a dull board this must seem, to those who thrive on drama and/or have control issues. LOL.

Youse guys is kewl. biggrin

-- Edited by Nightowlhoot3 at 10:14, 2009-01-05

Date: Fri Jan 2 10:12 PM, 2009

Psych Lit wrote:

saw this in the times today and it sort of answers the question owl asked about where the non reality tv shows have gone.
As NBC has cast about for ways to restore its fortunes in the new century, its most prominent ideas have involved making more out of less: supersizing episodes of its few popular shows, like The Office; scattering Deal or No Deal across the week; giving five hours of prime time to Jay Leno.
Skip to next paragraph
Related
'Heroes: The Recruit' (nbc.com) 'Battlestar Galactica: The Face of the Enemy' (scifi.com)
But not everything the network does is reductive. One area in which NBC, and its sister cable channels in the NBC Universal family, have consistently provided more than the other big networks is online: theyre the only reliable purveyors of true Webisodes, if we define the genre narrowly as minidramas produced in conjunction with an existing television series.
(To be fair, you can go to cbs.com and watch many episodes of Big Brother House Calls. You could also poke yourself in the eye with a stick.)
At the moment, with network television having gone into a profound holiday slumber of repeats and musical specials, practically the only original fiction the networks are offering consists of a pair of online dramas on NBC Universal Web sites, each of which will post a new episode on Monday.
Both of these Web series are bridging gaps in their companion television seriess schedules. The Recruit (nbc.com/Heroes/video/categories/the-recruit/873822/) falls between volumes of NBCs Heroes, which returns to the air on Feb. 2. The Face of the Enemy (scifi.com/battlestar) leads up to the final episodes of the Sci Fi Channels Battlestar Galactica, which begin on Jan. 16.
The two serial dramas (The Recruit will be posting the third of five weekly episodes; The Face of the Enemy the sixth of 10 biweekly episodes) join a library of Webisodes available on the NBC Universal sites, and its not just science-fiction or fantasy shows that have had these extra resources devoted to them. At usanetwork.com lie six fairly funny Webisodes for Psych, which are notable because they feature the seriess stars, James Roday and Dulé Hill. Theyre bare-bones, one-joke videos, however; two of the six involve the characters sitting at their desks making prank phone calls.
More elaborate are the recent Chuck Webisodes at nbc.com, which take the form of mock instructional videos for Buy More, the big-box store where the shows hero, Chuck Bartowski, works. A number of the shows supporting players the nerd herd of Buy More workers appear in the Webisodes, but Chuck himself (Zachary Levi) doesnt, an absence that seems more pronounced given that the show is named after him.
Even more ambitious is The Outburst, a four-episode Web extension of The Office posted this month on nbc.com. Its a self-contained narrative about the Dunder-Mifflin workers raging curiosity when Oscar (Oscar Martinez) has a loud argument on the telephone with an unknown interlocutor.
Clocking in at about 11 minutes total, its half the length of an Office episode and about half as funny, which isnt bad for free desktop entertainment. Much of the regular cast appears in the Webisodes, but not the biggest stars: no Steve Carell, John Krasinski or Jenna Fischer.
All of these comedy Webisodes (or dramedy, in the case of Chuck) are diverting, but none are more than diversions. The Heroes and Battlestar Galactica Web serials are, for better or worse, tied into the story arcs of the television shows, and if they dont advance the plots in essential ways, they still contain information that the obsessive viewers those series attract will want to process and file away.
The Recruit spins off the Dec. 15 half-season finale of Heroes, in which the Pinehearst laboratory where Mohinder Suresh was working to perfect the superpower formula was torched. The Webisodes follow a particularly inconsequential strand from the shows current tangle of story lines: they fill in the back story of one of the otherwise faceless group of Marines who served as guinea pigs for tests of the formula. As in the two previous batches of Heroes Webisodes, the only series regular who appears is Cristine Rose as the dour Angela Petrelli.
The whole effort feels halfhearted; while Jesse Alexander, a Heroes executive producer, gets a story credit, the writers and director of the Webisodes are not among the shows A-team. And like the earlier Heroes Webisodes, The Recruit amplifies the shows biggest problem, which is superhero inflation. The last thing we need is more characters, with increasingly redundant powers, to keep track of.
The Face of the Enemy, on the other hand, could serve as a model of the Webisode genre. Its not something you need to watch if youre not already a Battlestar Galactica fan, but those who are will appreciate the serious treatment this minidrama has received, the same kind of care taken with the cult-favorite series itself. The lead writer of Enemy was Jane Espenson, a Galactica co-executive producer and television veteran with Gilmore Girls and Buffy the Vampire Slayer on her résumé, and its performers include series regulars like Grace Park, Alessandro Juliani and Michael Hogan.
The Webisodes, which will conclude on Jan. 12, just before the television series returns, are a self-contained murder mystery set aboard a small spacecraft that has been separated from the fleet. But they also expand on the Galactica mythology, through flashbacks, and flesh out major characters. Fans who had wondered whether Lieutenant Gaeta (Mr. Juliani) was gay found out in Episode 1 of Enemy. Or they thought they did, until his close encounter with a Cylon 8 (Ms. Park) a few episodes later clouded matters.
Along with the regular Webisodes the Sci Fi Channel is providing enhanced versions featuring commentary by Ms. Espenson. Theyre a revelation in their own right. While commentary tracks on movies or even television episodes tend to get boring or crazy-making long before the show is over, commentary tracks on four- or five-minute Webisodes can actually be entertaining.
Ms. Espenson describes the chaotic, and poignant, circumstances in which the Web serial was filmed: with the television seriess final season already completed, the Enemy scenes were often the last things filmed on the Galactica sets. After a scene was completed, its set would be torn down for good.
Other tidbits Ms. Park plays two parts in Enemy because the Galactica star Tricia Helfer turned out not to be available after the story had already been developed might seem like too much information to have while the serial is still unfolding. But its really just a sign that NBC Universal is getting at least one thing right. In a world where the possibilities for elaborating your shows online are endless, the true fan wants to see and hear everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/arts/television/29webi.html

I think I tried to post the other night that one holiday gift from my folks was the 16 dvd, 51 episode, collectors set of the Avengers. The Mrs Emma Peel ones. I think I wrote this already, never mind. I now I did, I just think this is the one that "poofed". But, that's been my overall approach to "bad" or absent television, hoarding up mounds of movies, long running series and mini series from all over the network and cable shows. Old and new. Some English, a French one or two and alot of brunette ones. ;) One day I may just chuck the whole cable, internet thing and sit around lighting incense and watcing that third season of Weeds I bought what six months, a year ago? The one I can't seem to watch just yet. FWIW, I am about to be anonymous.

Agonistes · Member

i'm upset a lot of the better non-reality shows have got cancelled, like pushing daisies. i really liked that show.

Ag "futurama" Onistes

Psych Lit · Guru

saw this in the times today and it sort of answers the question owl asked about where the non reality tv shows have gone.

As NBC has cast about for ways to restore its fortunes in the new century, its most prominent ideas have involved making more out of less: supersizing episodes of its few popular shows, like The Office; scattering Deal or No Deal across the week; giving five hours of prime time to Jay Leno.

Skip to next paragraph

But not everything the network does is reductive. One area in which NBC, and its sister cable channels in the NBC Universal family, have consistently provided more than the other big networks is online: theyre the only reliable purveyors of true Webisodes, if we define the genre narrowly as minidramas produced in conjunction with an existing television series.

(To be fair, you can go to cbs.com and watch many episodes of Big Brother House Calls. You could also poke yourself in the eye with a stick.)

At the moment, with network television having gone into a profound holiday slumber of repeats and musical specials, practically the only original fiction the networks are offering consists of a pair of online dramas on NBC Universal Web sites, each of which will post a new episode on Monday.

Both of these Web series are bridging gaps in their companion television seriess schedules. The Recruit (nbc.com/Heroes/video/categories/the-recruit/873822/) falls between volumes of NBCs Heroes, which returns to the air on Feb. 2. The Face of the Enemy (scifi.com/battlestar) leads up to the final episodes of the Sci Fi Channels Battlestar Galactica, which begin on Jan. 16.

The two serial dramas (The Recruit will be posting the third of five weekly episodes; The Face of the Enemy the sixth of 10 biweekly episodes) join a library of Webisodes available on the NBC Universal sites, and its not just science-fiction or fantasy shows that have had these extra resources devoted to them. At usanetwork.com lie six fairly funny Webisodes for Psych, which are notable because they feature the seriess stars, James Roday and Dulé Hill. Theyre bare-bones, one-joke videos, however; two of the six involve the characters sitting at their desks making prank phone calls.

More elaborate are the recent Chuck Webisodes at nbc.com, which take the form of mock instructional videos for Buy More, the big-box store where the shows hero, Chuck Bartowski, works. A number of the shows supporting players the nerd herd of Buy More workers appear in the Webisodes, but Chuck himself (Zachary Levi) doesnt, an absence that seems more pronounced given that the show is named after him.

Even more ambitious is The Outburst, a four-episode Web extension of The Office posted this month on nbc.com. Its a self-contained narrative about the Dunder-Mifflin workers raging curiosity when Oscar (Oscar Martinez) has a loud argument on the telephone with an unknown interlocutor.

Clocking in at about 11 minutes total, its half the length of an Office episode and about half as funny, which isnt bad for free desktop entertainment. Much of the regular cast appears in the Webisodes, but not the biggest stars: no Steve Carell, John Krasinski or Jenna Fischer.

All of these comedy Webisodes (or dramedy, in the case of Chuck) are diverting, but none are more than diversions. The Heroes and Battlestar Galactica Web serials are, for better or worse, tied into the story arcs of the television shows, and if they dont advance the plots in essential ways, they still contain information that the obsessive viewers those series attract will want to process and file away.

The Recruit spins off the Dec. 15 half-season finale of Heroes, in which the Pinehearst laboratory where Mohinder Suresh was working to perfect the superpower formula was torched. The Webisodes follow a particularly inconsequential strand from the shows current tangle of story lines: they fill in the back story of one of the otherwise faceless group of Marines who served as guinea pigs for tests of the formula. As in the two previous batches of Heroes Webisodes, the only series regular who appears is Cristine Rose as the dour Angela Petrelli.

The whole effort feels halfhearted; while Jesse Alexander, a Heroes executive producer, gets a story credit, the writers and director of the Webisodes are not among the shows A-team. And like the earlier Heroes Webisodes, The Recruit amplifies the shows biggest problem, which is superhero inflation. The last thing we need is more characters, with increasingly redundant powers, to keep track of.

The Face of the Enemy, on the other hand, could serve as a model of the Webisode genre. Its not something you need to watch if youre not already a Battlestar Galactica fan, but those who are will appreciate the serious treatment this minidrama has received, the same kind of care taken with the cult-favorite series itself. The lead writer of Enemy was Jane Espenson, a Galactica co-executive producer and television veteran with Gilmore Girls and Buffy the Vampire Slayer on her résumé, and its performers include series regulars like Grace Park, Alessandro Juliani and Michael Hogan.

The Webisodes, which will conclude on Jan. 12, just before the television series returns, are a self-contained murder mystery set aboard a small spacecraft that has been separated from the fleet. But they also expand on the Galactica mythology, through flashbacks, and flesh out major characters. Fans who had wondered whether Lieutenant Gaeta (Mr. Juliani) was gay found out in Episode 1 of Enemy. Or they thought they did, until his close encounter with a Cylon 8 (Ms. Park) a few episodes later clouded matters.

Along with the regular Webisodes the Sci Fi Channel is providing enhanced versions featuring commentary by Ms. Espenson. Theyre a revelation in their own right. While commentary tracks on movies or even television episodes tend to get boring or crazy-making long before the show is over, commentary tracks on four- or five-minute Webisodes can actually be entertaining.

Ms. Espenson describes the chaotic, and poignant, circumstances in which the Web serial was filmed: with the television seriess final season already completed, the Enemy scenes were often the last things filmed on the Galactica sets. After a scene was completed, its set would be torn down for good.

Other tidbits Ms. Park plays two parts in Enemy because the Galactica star Tricia Helfer turned out not to be available after the story had already been developed might seem like too much information to have while the serial is still unfolding. But its really just a sign that NBC Universal is getting at least one thing right. In a world where the possibilities for elaborating your shows online are endless, the true fan wants to see and hear everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/arts/television/29webi.html